Mafia 2 - I Left My Heart in San Francisco - Day 3

derB wrote:

Alright, Thian and Mandie, this is what bothers me most, all game Mandie has bemoaned the 'bandwagon' vote, and now suddenly she is begging for one, on the cusp of the game being over, should it tilt in the mafias favor. I am not blind to this. What bothers me still is that no matter what, we are going to be relatively clueless.

Cam said specifically he thought that one of you was mafia, and the other was misinformed. He laid out all the possibilities for all to see and read like a good townie should, and picked the one that felt was the most likely. Nothing scummy there to me.

YOU GUYS, on the other hand, are force-feeding us your beliefs, giving us only one sided stories and filling it with promises that for all I know are empty, trying really hard to push a lynch that is going nowhere fast, very nearly begging for a bandwagon to begin. Right now, the mafias best friends are the bandwagoners. it will only take two bandwagoners to put away an innocent townie for good if the mafia gets behind it full force. That this is what you guys are asking for, begging for, after whining about that same strategy for the entire game, is craziness to me, and I won't have a part of it. My vote will stay where it is.

I think mandie like myself has not wanted to participate in a lynch just to lynch as you have encouraged. Now she is sure Cam is mafia and has cast a vote and is asking others to join her. You would do likewise if you were sure of someone. That in fact was what you were encouraging that last round. That this is what you asked for, begged for, and now deride, is craziness to me. It's almost like Mandie may e right and you are desperately trying to protect a fellow mafia member.

Mandie Leigh wrote:

Boyd hasnt said anything about what he thinks of me in the game.

My gut tells me Mandie is innocent, I know DerB doesn't want to hear such pronouncements. Given the circumatance i haven't seen anything abnormal from her, but I've never played a game with her either. Overall I now get the trusty vibe the most from Thian, Pete and Mandie.

Thian wrote:

Mandie:
Pete's reason to vote me, was cheerleading, trail blazing a lynch for kyle, forming a bandwagon.

I stated that it was the only confident read he had on me. Otherwise, he is full of ifs buts, and's ors and maybes.

I then stated, that it must have been someones idea to paint me as mafia and send people on a red herring of the obvious choice. Someone who led the lynch.

conveniently now, Boyd has stated, he feels that cheerleaders / trail blazers are prime suspect. A shared thought between the two and obvious night talk strategy discussion.

I'm not sure how to state it any plainer. I was engaged in a back and forth with DerB who was gushing over the idea of a blind lynch. He didn't CARE who got lynched, it just had to be somebody. He also was NOT part of the voting bandwagon for Kyle, he was just the instigator from the sidelines (hence the term cheerleader - they are not on the field of play - you can't blame the cheerleaders when the footbal team loses, you see) saying that the town HAD to lynch SOMEBODY, when Kyle was at three votes. Now he is completely trying to reverse the ploy he used yesterday. I was not saying cheerleaders or trailblazers are necessarily scummy - they can't all be. But in the context of the game and DerB's timing, that is the conclusion i have drawn.

Thian wrote:

and I also feel the way that boyd has responded to each post seperately, means he wasn't careful enough to watch what was said by others prior and got caught up in the link.


Boyd:
Please give me a list of each person.
your opinion on them.

How well they are doing in the game would be nice, since you refuse to give your mafia reads / town reads.

Thian I worked all day, when I got home I started reading from where I left off. I quoted as I went. I was caught up to that point in the link i quoted from, expecting to catch up on any later posts like this one. Now I guess I could have spent a long time copying and pasting and writing one big long drawn out post that covered everything. But I'll keep doing things the way i'm doing them. If this causes confusion i'm sorry.

I would be happy to give you a list of each person. But I would like to know when I refused something. When was soemthing offered that I refused? If I don't have a read on people should I post anyway, just to act like I'm "investigating"

Myself - Apparently, the jury is still out
Mandie - possibly innocent, she sounds like someone who is frustrated that no one will listen to her
Pete - possibly innocent, he sounds like he doesn't know what to think, I feel the same way
Cam - ???, no read on him, he barely posts.
D'lady - ???, could be the great sleeper agent for all I know
Stacie - ???, Stacie is always nice. I would never see it coming
DerB - Possibly guilty, I've explained it a number of times
PhocQ - Possibly guilty, antagonism as a strategy? yikes
Thian - ???, based on your eagerness to help me investigate last round, I thought you were innocent. Your switching a vote to me. Hmmmmm. It's not a vote I would have cast. Oh wait, I already have.

My money is on a combo of DerB, Phoc and one of the question matks

does anyone know if the 3 mafia members have to send in the same vote for it to work?

something just clicked.... and I need to figure something out. If anyone has that information off the top of their head.

Hey everyone!! I finished up my work for today and I have a quick little bit to post here before we go out for the night. I read all the posts, more like swam in them lol. 6 pages since I left!

One thing that stuck out for me was that Thian said when I posted earlier, I sounded wishy washy and didn't simply name a single person who I thought was guilty. I thought my post made sense, haha. But I'll go ahead and say that of the two between Thian and Mandie, I think that Mandie is misguided, and Thian is guilty.

So...I vote Thian.

If it's not him, then Mandie is still highly suspect in my eyes, but I'd have to go back over posts again before pursuing that.

Cam, did you miss a night kill round one? My vote will be coming your way my fine fluffy friend!

nice... you vote, I pose a question and you run.

DEADLINE for Day 3 - Sunday, March 20th - 10:00pm EDT

VOTES: (Majority of 5 needed to lynch)
Sir Boydly Boydster: 1 Vote of 5 (Thian)
Thian: 3 Votes of 5 (derB, PhocQ, Cam)
Cam: 1 Vote of 5 (Mandie)
derB: 1 Vote of 5 (Sir Boydly)
PhocQ: 1 Vote of 5 (Stacie)

Pending votes: 2
Dragonldy, Pete

Happy St. Patrick's Day everyone! I'm still considering what Phoc, Thian and DerB are saying. Tryinrg to decide who is telling the truth and who is not.

Why just us three dragonldy? you've got a plethora of people to speak to as well or judge whether or not they are telling the truth?

Happy st patty's to you as well.

the post and dodge technique...

I've got a hunch that cam is actually mafia, but . . . I'd becareful on confirming that immediately until Cam can stay long enough to get a decent conversation outta him.

My vote is still on Cam. He is the most suspicious to me. If that changes, I promise I will let yall know. As far as Cam posting more for you, I think his strategy is to lay low, say nothing and blend.

Dragonldy, to recap my stance, this is how I feel about everyone.

Dragonldy and Cam. I do not see anything abnormal about either of them. They could be Mafia but really it would just be a total guess on my part. I've listened to everyone's thoughts about Cam but I just don't see the same thing. I just see Cam being Cam.

Derb I do not suspect at all. I'm never 100% sure about anyone but I believe all of Derb's actions have been sincere. Much like I related to Mandie at the end of last game, I relate well to Derb and his take on things in the game.

Pete and Boyd I am kinda iffy about but I do think they are just townies. If I am wrong about who I think the Mafia is, then my guess it's those two that fooled me.

Mandie is really tough. So many things scream Mafia to me but at the same time I can see Mandie truly thinking Cam is guilty. I don't agree with her but I wouldn't be surprised if she was innocent and really did think that. But there are just so many things about how she started it all that makes me suspicious.

Stacie's strategy of openly bandwagoning makes me extremely suspicious of her. Being the one to drop the hammer on people and not taking responsibility is very much a Mafia thing to do.

Thian's guilt in my eyes grows with every hour he isn't lynched. Just like Mandie, I have to go with what my best educated guess tells me and if I am right that Derb is innocent, then Thian should have been lynched by the Mafia by now. But he hasn't. He is still there. All the Mafia needs is 2 townie votes and Thian has 3.

PhocQ will be wrong on this lynch. However, I do want people to lynch him next day. you will get scum.. I've got a handle on it now.

DEADLINE for Day 3 - Sunday, March 20th - 10:00pm EDT

VOTES: (Majority of 5 needed to lynch)
Thian: 3 Votes of 5 (derB, PhocQ, Cam)
Cam: 1 Vote of 5 (Mandie)
derB: 1 Vote of 5 (Sir Boydly)
PhocQ: 2 Votes of 5 (Stacie, Thian)

Pending votes: 2
Dragonldy, Pete

PhocQ is buddying with Mandie, dragonldy in his assessment of them. Mandie, dragonldy please be careful of this. Don't trust.

He knows certainly well that dragonldy is an impulse voter, and the more support he gets from her, the easier it will be to lynch another townie.

Stacie is an easy targert at this point to blame for a hammer, it's too obvious.

Mandie hop aboard your PhocQ suspicion.

I dont trust anything PhocQ says!!!

Also, PhocQ is appealing to the masses by stating that I am a threat for mafia to have around, why wasn't I killed last night? you could certainly say that about PhocQ as well. he is, in general good at playing this game. Same could be thought about him.

Mandie, come on, then vote phocQ, we can go after Cam tomorrow.

He has currently put too much out guess work in his claims, whether you wish to follow and believe that, or stick to what is in plain view. Scummy pants Phoc.

Stacie, do you still feel the same way, that I am the most suspicious person? If Thian gets another vote will you flip over to him or have you abandoned the bandwagoning?

Mandie Leigh wrote:

I dont trust anything PhocQ says!!!

I guess that kinda makes it tough for us to see eye to eye, now doesn't it.

I still feel like you are mafia so as for now, Im keeping put.