Board of Trustees: Cam

Cam, you may address and question the Final Two here. Final 2, you may answer in this thread.

Hello Brant and Kenya

First off, let me just say congrats for making it here. We all went through a lot together, and I'm extremely proud. We got our original Final 4 to the end, which basically never happens.

Since I've been talking to both of you a ton, I've pretty much already made up my mind about the vote. I do have a few questions though.

Kenya: Your social game was impeccable. We both worked hard to know where everyone's head was at, at all times. We had deals that had backups that had backups for the backups. I loved being with you every step of the way on that, and it was kind of cool knowing we were safe and that we could turn on basically anyone at any point. I've never really played a game before where I make tons of alliances. It's usually one core alliance that I pray will get me to the end. It was awesome and definitely a guilty pleasure stabbing people in the back. I know you didn't really like that part of it, so I helped push you through it.

My question for you is -- When it was F4 and we were talking about voting out Brant of Bryan, would you really have voted out Brant if I wanted to? How would it have affected your game if you did? Would you have taken me to the finals over Bryan who "did nothing"?

And a narcissistic request -- Tell me why I would have won against you, and then against Brant.

Brant: We DOMINATED the challenge scene. No one could touch us, and even if they could, we controlled the outcome. From the first big posting challenge, which was basically spam posting alternating between us, I knew we had something special. We didn't really create anything official for a few rounds because it was kind of an understood bond that we had not to screw each other over. We respected one another. If we didn't talk much outside challenges, I apologize. But you're honestly the person I spoke to the most out of anyone in this game.

I did consider taking you out for quite some time. I had the ability and the votes at a few different points. Especially at the Final 4. But in the end, it was my own strategy that beat me.

My question for you is -- I really frown upon cross-tribe communication, as our host does. It was never explicitly stated as not being allowed though. (I've expressed my dislike of it to Kenya, and other players numerous times. It's even why I made sure I picked Kenya first for my tribe because I knew she would cross-tribe chat, regardless). If you and Kenya hadn't talked so much while on opposing tribes, do you think things would have been different down the road, at the end of the game?

And the same narcissistic request to you -- Tell me why I would have won against you, and then against Kenya.

My question for you is -- I really frown upon cross-tribe communication, as our host does. It was never explicitly stated as not being allowed though. (I've expressed my dislike of it to Kenya, and other players numerous times. It's even why I made sure I picked Kenya first for my tribe because I knew she would cross-tribe chat, regardless). If you and Kenya hadn't talked so much while on opposing tribes, do you think things would have been different down the road, at the end of the game?

No, I honestly do not think that things would have been different if Kenya and I would not have cross-tribe communicated. We would have still thrown the challenge at final 10 to take Alex out because it made the most sense from a strategic standpoint, and Alex had already jeopardized his position and shown himself as untrustworthy with the fake conversations he was spreading over the board. Before original Snozzwanger split during the tribe swap, Travis was already the person I had discussed with most of original Snozzwanger as our next target if we had to vote, so seeing him go home would not have concerned me greatly. I never completely trusted anyone (including you and Kenya) and tried to play as safe as possible, so I likely would have done the same things I did at the merge that I actually did.

Even eliminating cross-tribe communication, Kenya and I still talked more throughout the game than I did with you and talked more in depth about strategy than I talked with you, so I would have still taken her to the final 2 with the “higher priority alliance” justification.

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And the same narcissistic request to you -- Tell me why I would have won against you, and then against Kenya.

You would have won against me because people considered you a leader from the start of the game. When the challenges were posted, you would almost always be the first one to respond setting up organization for all of us, and I talked to most of our original tribe and we shared the same thoughts about your leadership characteristics. I felt like I was online and worked about as hard as you, but you were the one that most people would refer to as the top challenge threat in the game pre-merge and post-merge. Plus, not like it was anything I could control, but you had more occurring at Snozzwanger 2.0 than I had going on at Hornswoggler 2.0, and that may have increased the perception that you worked harder than I did. Because of that, you were involved in a lot of alliances with Kenya and original Hornswoggler Tribe that I did not share. So because you were considered a leadership figure, the top threat most of the game, and also maybe because the players you betrayed would have seen this and respected you for it in the context of the game, that is why you would have beat me.

With Kenya, the same leadership perception putting you as the favorite to win this game still applies. Also, there were people who did not perceive Kenya as being involved in the game to the extent that she was and didn’t talk to her as much, whereas you were online a lot so much more available to talk to. It was completely clear that your head was 100% into the game, and at points, there may have been some doubts about Kenya. Plus you and Kenya had similar alliances, so if people were bitter at one of you, they probably would have been bitter at both of you. Since you ultimately shared closer bonds with some of them like Cory and Pete, I think, than Kenya did and were more accessible for Sadie and others to talk to, I believe (but can't say for certain) that you were more likely to receive their votes and win on top of just making it to the final 2 despite being an obvious threat.

Kenya: Your social game was impeccable. We both worked hard to know where everyone's head was at, at all times. We had deals that had backups that had backups for the backups. I loved being with you every step of the way on that, and it was kind of cool knowing we were safe and that we could turn on basically anyone at any point. I've never really played a game before where I make tons of alliances. It's usually one core alliance that I pray will get me to the end. It was awesome and definitely a guilty pleasure stabbing people in the back. I know you didn't really like that part of it, so I helped push you through it.

My question for you is -- When it was F4 and we were talking about voting out Brant of Bryan, would you really have voted out Brant if I wanted to? How would it have affected your game if you did? Would you have taken me to the finals over Bryan who "did nothing"?
I knew this question was going to come up.. or some form of it. As you recall.. I did vote for Brant regardless of what you did. Yes I made sure it was okay with Brant and I explained the situation to him and then I also went to Bryan and talked to him about what was going down and he even told me to vote for him.. the reason I didn't is I felt I couldn't vote against Bryan.. although after finding out he was the mysterious vote at final 5 for me and that he lied to me.. that's why he was okay with me voting for him lol. I also went to Brant and made up lies about why I was trying to sway you to vote him out. Because I didn't want you to repeat anything to him and have him not trust me, since you clearly were voting Bryan. But I was going to vote for Brant regardless of what you were going to do, that is the honest truth. The reason being what I did say to you.. he is a bigger threat than Bryan. But the thing is if we both had voted Brant, Bryan may still have self voted and that situation may not have happened anyway. But if somehow it had, I do believe you would have won the final challenge anyway, after experiencing that.. unless Bryan decided to invest some time in the game and study for it. Which from the fact that his head was not in the game, he probably wouldn't have done. BUT a side note if you weren't immune in final 4, I would have voted for you because I felt you were the BIGGEST threat to win the entire game.
Now if by some miracle I had won the final challenge and I was in a situation between picking you and Bryan. That would have been tough, because of being closer with Bryan over all.. BUT it's hard to say for the simple fact that he lied to me and you didn't and I hold a huge value on things like that. If I had found out all the things I did this last round, I'm not sure what I would have done. There is a lot of things I would have had to consider because I always take my main ally to the end in this situation.. but the problem is you both were in my main alliance, but alas Bryan was more in the core, so to be completely honest, probably Bryan.

And a narcissistic request -- Tell me why I would have won against you, and then against Brant.

In all honesty, I don't think you would have won against me . But I'll play along! I felt our game was pretty closely matched up, social wise anyway. And I feel you may have won against me because you were a very well rounded player, you had the social game and the challenge part about the game down pact, you won when you needed to and you also talked to just about everyone, pretty much the same people as me. Sometimes I feel that people would be more mad at me over you, and I'm not sure why maybe because I feel they would be more forgiving to you over all and that's why you would beat me. You are such a likable guy and that would totally be in your favor to help you win.

Against Brant, I feel you would have beat him hands down.. because I feel you talked more to the jury and they would have respected your game more and that's because you are the very well rounded and balanced player.. with having the social skills as well as the challenge skills done very well. Because of how much we had so many alliances and could do what we wanted and everyone believed in us and trusted us. I feel you would have explained that very well and would have impressed the jury with all of that.

Between the 3 of us.. I feel that Brant and I combined.. = you Cam because of the fact that Brant has an amazing challenge game.. I have an amazing social game and you had them both and that would be hard to compete against in the final 2.

Thank you for understanding what I meant in my first question. It didn't come out right for some reason, but you answered what I was thinking about anyway.

Bonus points!!