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PostSubject: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 3:50 pm

It was a cold morning and the mist from the forest edge was so thick.

No one could see a thing.

as the group gathered together, they noticed that someone had been missing.. . . . but who was it?



One by one they did role call, it wasn't until the fog lifted, they saw the body of a young, sassy woman torn limb from limb.

What a meaty lunch the werewolves had.













and, she really did POP OFF!!!!!!!.














As little red riding hood weeped the group tried to clean up the mess of Tanisha.





she was just a little villager like the rest.






PLAYERS ALIVE

2. Virtuanno
3. derB
4. Deetster
5. Tiffani
6. Staciekins
7. Sir Boydly Boydster
8. JJ
9. Kyle
10. Kenya
11. Cam
17. Santos

The Dead:

Day 1: Termy - Lynched - Role: Lycan
Night 1: No One
Day 2: Dragonlady640 - lynched - role: Aura Seer
Day 2: Dragonbunny - Lynched - role: Villager
Night 2: Brant - Night Killed - Role: Villager
Day 3: Mandie - Lynched - Role: Villager
Night 3: Tanisha - Night Killed - Role: Villager
Day 4: ???????????????????????????


The sick relative:
This is your last day alive. Upon tomorrow, you will die.

With 11 Alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

4 bad guys remain.



Deadline for Day 4 06 June 2011 23:59EDT


Majority to lynch 6

Votes:


Pending Votes:
Virtuanno, derB, deetster, Tiffani, Staciekins, Boyd, Jackie, Kyle, Kenya, Cam, Santos
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 3:57 pm

Wow now that's an interesting kill. I think what really needs to be speculated to start this round off is the fact that Mandie was lynched so quickly last round. The fact that people started jumping on the vote so quickly is what was so odd about how it happened. I thought Mandie was suspicious too BUT once everyone started jumping on her, I thought less and less that she was evil.

Now I highly doubt all the evil roles were voting her. But I think maybe at least ONE did. The rest more than likely just stayed out of it though in my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 4:11 pm

Yeah, I didn't like how quickly that all happened either. Personally, it made me feel like some innocent people were trying to get the round done with really quickly, with, as you mentioned, perhaps one wolf, and that really, really isn't what the villagers should be doing at this juncture one bit.

Tanisha was a really interesting kill. It is tough to know what to take from it though.
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 4:14 pm

My take on them killing Tanisha is that maybe they felt she was the most likely innocent person??? Although for me I felt like she wasn't posting much therefore why even bother killing her right now when trying to kill someone that is more active that they felt was innocent? But maybe they didn't wanna risk killing one from their own side.

There is a lot of roles left right now.. more so then just plain villagers.

I also agree with you Deet on the fact that I felt a lot of villagers just wanted the round to end which was a bad idea. I also didn't like that Mandie pretty much push people to vote her as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 4:16 pm

Mind you.. I haven't understood either of the wolves kills. Especially the Brant kill now that one still confuses me.
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 4:36 pm

The Tanisha kill was probably agreed upon so that the villagers wouldn't know what to make of it, which is exactly what is happening. I thought that Mandie was innocent, and she was. I too was shocked at how fast that happened.

I was wrong about Brant as the Sick Relative. It'll be interesting to see who seems like they're putting out as much analysis or information as possible on their last day alive.

The wolves (and other evils) are certainly doing well this game. I think looking back at the Mandie lynch will show 1 or 2 evils as voters for her.

Kenya: 2 vote of 7: Mandie, Kyle
Kyle: 1 Vote of 7: Kenya
Mandie: 7 Vote of 7: Jackie, derB, Deetster, Sir Boydly Boydster, Tanisha, Virtuanno, Stacie


Pending Votes: 3
Tiffani, Cam, Santos
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 4:38 pm

I was really shocked when I came on and seen that Mandie had been lynched and even more shocked that she wasn't Red lol And relieved. I really thought Mandie was the seer. Luckily we've only lost two villagers. I need to go back and read what started the Mandie lynch and try to figure out why she encouraged it Sad Losing two villagers was not what we needed right now Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 4:48 pm

Tiff - how come you thought that Mandie was the seer?
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 5:13 pm

I think it was because someone brought up how she suspected derB and then suddenly he had vanished from her suspect list. I kept thinking that she must have been the seer and cleared him and was sending us a hint lol I also thought Brant was the sick villager. So I really suck at this investigating stuff lol
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 5:14 pm

But Mandie was wrong about Dragonbunny.. that's what made me not think she was the Seer because why would she be so sure about him and then be wrong. It just didn't make me think she was the seer from that. I honestly thought she could be the enchanter if anything lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 5:16 pm

I figured she just hadn't investigated Dragonbunny............but I'm mixing stuff up, it wasn't derb, hold on, let me read the last day so i can see why i thought that.
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 5:18 pm

Ok i think it was Deet, she had him listed once and then not again. Maybe Mandie just sucks as bad as I do at investigating lol
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 5:20 pm

You know what's suspicious.. when people come and read the results and then not post anything. Do those people have something to hide and are just waiting for someone to start a vote so they can jump in?
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 5:21 pm

It sucks that it's this late in the game, and we haven't gotten one of thsoe 4 wolves. It's getting to do or die time, because next round there will only be 9 people in this game if the dices allow if I'm not mistaken...at that point ALL 5 villagers will have to coordinate perfectly to kill a wolf.

We need to...be careful and thoughtful with what we do here and now. The seer...if you know something, now is the time to stand up and pretty much make it so damn obvious that you know someone is a wolf if you know, because its really almost the last time you might be able to...

I mean...at the same time it's not good to lose our seer, but I know I made that sacrifice one game, and if I remember correctly it helped ... at the least it got a wolf killed. There are still so many wolves though, so it might be better for them to stick quiet, and just HOP onto a lynch they know is right...but we need to get ourselves there first in that case.
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 5:21 pm

Honestly its really sad how everybody jumped Mandie last round so quickly . I never suspected about her and when i got home i saw that she was already lynch and that was really disappointed .

Stacie you were one of the people that voted for Mandie last round and that tells me that you were never defending your family but that also tells me that you always like to stick with the majority . I have the feeling that you never thought that Mandie was guilty however you voted for her because it was your chance to stayed alive another day . Now i have a question for you . Do you have something to hide ? I feel that you always try to vote with the majority because that's the chance to survive another round and i feel that its a little bit evil by your part because you don't care if innocent people die you just care about surviving .

In my opinion i feel that you are trying to take the target our of your back . Now Is that what a baddie will do ?
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 5:23 pm

I don't think we can really base any theory on the Mandie vote since I think she just got people to vote for her for some reason.

Deet, you said you felt weird voting Mandie, then voted for her..................why did you vote her?
Boyd & Stacie, why did you vote for Mandie?
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 5:24 pm

Deetster wrote:
It sucks that it's this late in the game, and we haven't gotten one of thsoe 4 wolves. It's getting to do or die time, because next round there will only be 9 people in this game if the dices allow if I'm not mistaken...at that point ALL 5 villagers will have to coordinate perfectly to kill a wolf.

We need to...be careful and thoughtful with what we do here and now. The seer...if you know something, now is the time to stand up and pretty much make it so damn obvious that you know someone is a wolf if you know, because its really almost the last time you might be able to...

I mean...at the same time it's not good to lose our seer, but I know I made that sacrifice one game, and if I remember correctly it helped ... at the least it got a wolf killed. There are still so many wolves though, so it might be better for them to stick quiet, and just HOP onto a lynch they know is right...but we need to get ourselves there first in that case.


We have a body guard don't we>??
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 5:26 pm

Kenya wrote:
You know what's suspicious.. when people come and read the results and then not post anything. Do those people have something to hide and are just waiting for someone to start a vote so they can jump in?

Well why don't you call those people out to see what they have to hide
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 5:30 pm

Deet - I think we'll be down to 8 after the night phase.. due to today being the final day for the sick relative.. because we will lose them as well unless we lynch them by mistake or the wolves kill them by mistake. Also we're down to exactly 3 people that JUST have villager status.. everyone else has some kind of role.. whether it be evil or not.

Tiff- there is no bodyguard.. we have 4 evil roles... (2 wolves/enchanter(can block a night action)/sorcerer) we have a hunter, we have the doppelganger, the sick relative, the seer and 3 villagers.

Santos - you are right, Virt came to the board and didn't post.. everyone else I've seen hanging out the board since this thread has been made has posted. So Virt why no posting? Nothing to say on the fact that you were apart of lynching Mandie and she turned out innocent?


Last edited by Kenya on Tue May 31, 2011 5:37 pm; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : I meant to say 8.. after the night phase not 9)
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 5:33 pm

Tiffani wrote:
I don't think we can really base any theory on the Mandie vote since I think she just got people to vote for her for some reason.

Deet, you said you felt weird voting Mandie, then voted for her..................why did you vote her?
Boyd & Stacie, why did you vote for Mandie?

How come you said we can't base any theory on the Mandie vote but then go and question Deet about why he voted that way.. isn't that getting information from the Mandie vote?
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 7:50 pm

A couple of things I'd like to say about Mandie's lynch. It seemed to me that, while some people were voting her (me included) because they thought she might be evil, others didn't give a reason or seemed to be making fun of the whole process or just doing what Mandie wanted.

Tiffani, you said you wanted to know what started the lynch...I did, lol. I take responsibility in starting the vote but I felt the way she was playing was very suspicious. Now that I know she was innocent, I think the fact that Mandie was encouraging people to vote her sucks because she was supposed to be playing toward a win condition for the village, whether she wanted to be in the game or not.

I'd like to add to the questions posed by Tiffani and Santos to Boyd and Stacie - do you think Mandie was guilty? If so, why? If not, why did you vote for her?

Virtuanno, Mandie suspected you at the end of Day 2 and voted for you in the beginning of Day 3. Your reason was: "I also found Mandie's vote for me very suspicious and random to start off the round." How was her vote for you random when she said she suspected you?

Cam, you said "I was wrong about Brant as the Sick Relative. It'll be interesting to see who seems like they're putting out as much analysis or information as possible on their last day alive." I don't know why you are so focused on trying to figure out the sick relative, but I think doing this would only help the wolves. As Kenya pointed out, if they can avoid lynching or night-killing the sick relative, the sick relative's death is just a bonus to them. We should be focused on figuring the evil roles and not helping them to figure out the good ones.

Tiffani, are you reading the roles? Why do you think there's a bodyguard?

Deet, I agree we need to be very careful this round and I think everyone should list at least their first suspect right now and give reasons.

Right now I find Virtuanno and Kyle to be very suspicious.

Virtuanno because, like I said above, I feel like he may have just seen an opportunity to get someone who was a threat to him out of the game. Also, the lurking that both Mandie and Kenya mentioned.

Kyle because he has yet to really give much input except accusing Kenya, in my opinion. And that seemed more like a retaliatory vote to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 7:59 pm

For now I'm going to vote Kyle.
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 8:04 pm

I would like to know why Kyle came on and didn't post on the board either.. so far him and Virt did the same thing.. and why wouldn't you want to post?
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 8:20 pm

Tanisha? Hmm... A liability perhaps? Is there something earlier on in the game she might have caught on to? I feel that if we look at her thoughts from the more recent rounds, they would be red herrings, and would be the direction the wolves intend to lead us if indeed this is their train of thought.

It also needs to be pointed out that:
A. The sick relative is going to die next round
B. We are likely going to lynch this round
C. The wolves have a night kill

Add it all up and, unless the wolves target the sick relative, the sick relative gets lynched, or their night kill is stopped somehow, or the town lynches correctly for a change, we are toast, and the wolves win again. The Doppleganger only complicates this scenario. They may have targeted a wolf, and will just become one once the wolf is dead, not changing the numbers, or possibly, already have. I am not too sure on the specifics of what happens on the role reveal in that case. (Are we told the dopplegagger ability has triggered, or is the dop's target changed to a 'villager' when they die?) Basically, this is likely our last round if we lynch incorrectly, save for some unlikely/unusual circumstances. Deja vu.



Also, I had a thought, and would like to go back to my color question. From my point of view, a good of a place as any to start the round.

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Staciekins
Termy
JJ


Sir Boydly Boydster
Kenya
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Tiffani (Hot Pink)
Tanisha


Dragonldy

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Kyle
Cam (Hunter Green)
Dragonbunny
Mandie

Santos


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Italicized names are 'dead'. The reasons the wolves chose any particular color are for all practical purposes, infinite, anything from trying to avoid each other, to grouping up to avoid looking separated (vice versa of last scenario), to just being flat honest and the color choice didn't mean squat. It's the other two evil roles I am thinking about, as well as if there are any players who are inclined to believe signals are being used, and are voting heavy on players who chose red, thinking that the color is a 'signal' of being the seer.

I would hope that Red, if they found anything, in the light of this crucial round, would come forward, as they have had three investigations, and bag a wolf to prevent the game from ending (I know this puts them in the grave, basically, but it's either that or take the immense risk of losing). Even if all results were negative, we would still know who is not a wolf, and narrow it down. Ultimately this is up to them, but the way I see it, the sacrifice would outweigh the risk of the uninformed good guys running in blind.

I also don't think it would hurt to point out that Cam chose Hunter green. Hmm. I have been wrong about signals before, though, so take it with a grain of salt. Also, the colors are listed in the order the answers were given relative to their own color. (for example, Brant was the first to choose green, Santos the last). I happen to know a couple of the colors as honest answers, but not most of them.



Tiff, I realized you tried to explain as to "why Mandie?" when you stated you felt she might be Red, but to me it felt like a dodge more than an explanation. I'll ask again- Why are you casting votes for people you feel have innocent roles? I just find it very odd, and feel that this is an issue that needs to be grilled over the hottest of coals.
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PostSubject: Re: Day 4 - Werewolf 8 - Another Quiet Night   Tue May 31, 2011 8:27 pm

derB - my issue with Red coming forward IF that person hasn't found any wolves is dangerous because they might clear the enchanter since the enchanter would look innocent to them.

And I looked up your question about the Doppelganger:

Doppelganger - The Trickiest of Tricksters, this one is a villager,
until it's target is killed and then takes on the role of that dead
person. The first night, this character will select one person. When
that person dies, their role will NOT be revealed, and instead the
doppelganger will take over that role. This could be good, or bad. So
watch carefully.


Therefore from that sounds of that.. we would know who the Doppelganger picked once that person gets lynched/killed. We just wouldn't know that persons role, nor would we know who picked them.
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