Werewolf 4 - Highroad Falls Day 2

I'm suspecting PhocQ now because he's talking a lot and trying to cast blame on me. I don't like typing long boring speeches, so I'm not going to.

I voted for Mo because he was acting suspicious. Also I didn't like his gameplay in using Thian's "mistakes" to his advantage.

And I didn't want to vote out Doug because I felt bad since people thought he was "inactive" and targeted him.

I'm not a wolf, get the fuck off mah nuts.

Jacijs wrote:

Maybe it was smart of Tiffani to leave the vote until the last minute. If she would have voted Willy earlier maybe Momo or Willy would have worked harder to make sure it wasn't so close. Although, Willy really did nothing to try to convince us. But by adding her vote to Willy at the last minute she may have thought no one would come on in time to change if they really wanted to see her gone instead of Willy - and they didn't so... Just a theory.

Plus, and in partial comment to PhocQs reasoning more, people expect the wolves to be deceitful, and tricky. Tiffani and the wolves doing exactly what Tiffani would be "motivated" to do, ie. "framing" Tiffani would be what we would expect from a wolf, in an attempt to wrongfully make Tiffani seem wolfy. That would be a move to actually cancel out Tiffani. I'm sure the other wolves would be the ones to defend Tiffani very well. If Tiffani was a wolf this may actually be the most brilliant thing to do, oddly enough. People who seem to be pointing fingers at others BESIDES Tiffani right now, and talking about how she's probably not a wolf while casting blame elsewhere with specific names but non-specific reasoning. There is where the real suspicions lay for me, at least right now. Tiffani and the people who are now, and have been defending her while casting specific blame elsewhere.

This is crazy, lol. I mean you could draw so many theories from everything anyone says but I do not agree that people who are casting suspicions toward anyone who isn't Tiffani should be suspect. I defended Tiffani last round, too, but this round I can see why it may make more sense to lynch her, barring more compelling evidence toward someone else. I am totally open to other ideas, though, and I agree with Phoc that Dogdude seems suspicious. He seemed suspicious to me last round, too. I also agree that Phoc could be suspicious, lol. I guess I have a lot of suspects but that's kind of how the game works.

That being said we all have our own ideas and theories and I think saying "if you are pointing fingers elsewhere you may be a wolf" is kind of extreme. People may be afraid to bring up differing opinions and we need them all.

Ultimately there are going to be varying opinions, and that's how the game goes, and I totally understand that. I'm just saying that Tiffani to me seems to be someone that would be an obvious suspect, and it just seems odd to talk about how Tiffani being a wolf would make her the stupidest wolf, lol, because that then makes us feel like we shouldn't lynch her, when lynching her could be a good idea, or at least considered at this point, I WOULD THINK.

I dunno though, there are way too many suspects, you are right, I'm just raising my eyebrow to people who are portraying consistent trends of defence without much wavering, and subsequently targetting where I feel there is less evidence or backing. Though once agian, as I also said, I think the real wolves are probably the quiet people who have made themselves scarce or hard to target, so those indeed may be the right choices...

I agree that she could have killed Momo to make herself appear framed, but I'm with PhocQ on this one and think the voting last round in combination with this werewolf kill knocks her way down on my list.

Dogdude does seem more suspicious, but I'm gonna wait a bit to vote since we have ten days and I don't wanna start a bandwagon yet.

Deet I don't think it's fair of you to say I was throwing Dogdude's name out without a reason. I think I have VERY good reasons to suspect him.

The only reason why we suspected Tiffani was because of the host delaying the game. And I thought last round most of us felt that wasn't reason enough to lynch her.

I have 3 very good reasons (in my opinion) to suspect Dogdude as opposed to 1 flimsy reason (in my opinion) to suspect Tiffani.

Reasons why Dogdude could be the wolf:

- Refused to take part in my silly little protect a person game. I think Dogdude knew the real reason I made that game was to flush out information on people. You know, get them to say something or do something that might give us a clue to who the wolf is. Which is why I think he stayed away from it as much as he could.

- He not only refused to take part in the protect a person game, but he chose to vote for Momo. He says he did it cause he thought they were the wolf but he never really bothered to present us any information. I think if he DID think Momo was a wolf he would have tried harder to convince us. But he didn't. He simply said he was gonna vote for Momo and that the whole protect thing was stupid. We all know the real reason why Momo was killed. Momo is one of the best at sniffing out wolves. That is no conspiracy theory. That is fact.

- Last round Dogdude said he didn't like using the host's actions against Tiffani and refused to vote for her. He voted Momo instead. To which none of us really know why he did it. But all of a sudden this round he is more than happy to jump on the lynch Tiffani bandwagon? Again, he does so without even saying why he is doing it.


I am eager to hear what the rest of you think. If someone can present better evidence than what I have presented, I am more than happy to reconsider. Afterall, there is probably more than 1 wolf out there and so there has to be more evidence of wolfiness. lol

Dogdude's aloofness is what is bugging me this game. He shrugs a lot, lol. Like he doesn't care - or is trying hard to make us think he doesn't care. That is probably a flimsy reason but that is just not like him, in my opinion. I think he may be trying to be active while trying to appear cool and cast suspicion elsewhere.

Jacijs wrote:

Dogdude's aloofness is what is bugging me this game. He shrugs a lot, lol. Like he doesn't care

That's exactly it. I don't really care

I hate writing long explanations for anything. Kill me if you must, but I'm not a wolf, and you will make zero progress in the game.

Also, my track record proves that I'm terrible at this game. I feel like I've tried a different strategy every game and none have worked to my advantage.

I vote PhocQ for being long-winded and annoying.

Sorry I wasn't around, a bit of tragedy in the town I live in and I've been kind of blah about being around. I'm going to read all this, but thanks to the wolves for putting a target on me lol Hopefully everyone can see that I would have to be the stupidest person alive to kill MoMo if i was indeed a wolf.

Ok, you all gave me alot to read.

I honestly would NOT kill MoMo if I were a wolf because I know about this "it could go either way" stuff and would still end up being targetted. Which is exactly why the wolf did it. And probably why the wolf is now posting and saying "it could go either way" lol
I still suspect dragonldy, but I'll wait to hear some more before I cast a vote.

Dogdude, so defensive. You just don't give us anything, lol. And I don't think you're bad at this game, fyi.

Tiff, thanks for posting and I'm sorry for whatever is going on in your town. I accept your assertion that you would not have made that move if you were a wolf but can you elaborate on why you suspect dragonlady? You said she was acting suspicious last round and I don't know exactly what you mean by that.

I do agree with Tiffani actually, simply because that is an example of a person who has put themselves in a position to not be targetted really. I could picture someone like her being one of the wolves, but at the same time, as I also added, maybe she's perhaps too disinterested to really be the wolf.

And I agree that MoMo is great at sniffing out wolves, but I didn't realize some people actually agreed with that based on last round.

That was pretty quick to vote PhocQ Dogdude, lol, but at the same time I kind of agree with that assertion on some levels based on other things, but I feel there is some better targets to look at, and before I vote at least I want more people to put their in their two cents.

DEADLINE FOR DAY 2: 26 July 2010 00:00EST


VOTES:
1 Vote: PhocQ (Dogdude84)

Pending votes:
Kenya, Deetster, Brant, Bryan, PhocQ, Termy, Dragonldy640, Miss Mandie Leigh ((Vastfanatic)), Jackie ((Jacijs)), Tiffani, Pete

Please remember. Bold your votes
EX: I vote Thian

If you are dead, please do not speak further.

FYI: I will try to get votes up once per page.

I think the reason Tiff was suspicious of Dragonldy is because she was all trying to say things that made no sense.. and saying the game started because of Tiff being back and that the game wasn't held for her.. when she never said she needed the game held for her.. or something along those lines.

Yes those are reasons Kenya.
Also, and I hate bringing up past games, but last time dragonldy basically popped up to add on her vote or to say "oh i would've voted that way" but last round she was very fast to jump on the "Lynch Tiff" bandwagon and being vocal about it, despite saying she saw no reasons to vote for anyone before my name was thrown out. And when the vote looked to be turning from me, she then whined saying the game was held for me and not for her, trying to put that spotlight back on the game holding stuff.
It's just a feeling I've had.

I agree that some people are acting "different" than they did last game. It could be a reason to be suspicious or it could just be that they are trying to play a different game for whatever reason. I don't know if that's enough reason to say they're wolves.

I agree, it's just the WAY she's being different. Not just vocal, but first not having a reason, then having a reason, then trying to create a new debate of the whole "stopped game" nonsense lol

Just thought Id poke my head in and say howdy!!! I have had a long weekend. I hope to be around much more tomorrow and the coming week. I just didnt want anyone to think I dropped off the face of OrgPlanet. lol

I'm here too! I'm still thinking about who could be a wolf. I'm waiting to hear some howls!

Dragonldy, don't you have anything to say to defend yourself? You are being attacked by some people and the silence or your snub does make you suspicious.

LOL I was thinking the same thing Termy.. why isn't she defending herself..

I just noticed that the deadline isn't for another week.

Hopefully the wolves just starve to death.

PhocQ wrote:

Hopefully the wolves just starve to death.

I told you all before I was only a villager. This is only my second game
and Thian has never given me a role. Maybe one day, when I play a few more games, I'll get to actually be something. It's sad you guys are after me for no reason at all. I'm just reading all the convos and wondering what would people say to make you suspect they're a wolf. I would suspect someone who is quiet and staying under the radar, so no one suspects them.

It's not sad, there are reasons, weak as they may be. But stronger than your arguement for last round