Season 7 - Winterland - Day 4

Can we just send one of them to Ice Jail and have the Christmas Angel eliminate the other one tonight?

Then if Kenya's still here tomorrow, it has to be her, lol.

Jackie Frost wrote:

Merry Mandie wrote:

The same person was checked night 1 and night 2. Visiting Deet and Santa. Night 3, Brant was snug in his bed.

Wait, you checked Moose night 1 and 2?

Yes. Night 1, Moosey DID visit someone but they didnt die. I thought they might be Santa Claus. So I followed again.

Night 2, why would ANYONE visit Santa..... after we knew he was... well, Santa. Which is why I was absolutely sure that Moosey was a grinch.

Ghost of Christmas Brant wrote:

Tiffani Tree wrote:

The Christmas Angel DID use her power the first night at the request of a few that posted in the thread. She then regretted it the next night, but then we had another free night anyway lol She now wishes she had it for the next night.

So this means, if Brant was snug in his bed, he couldn't have killed anyone right? Since Santa was killed last night. I'm glad you checked Brant because he was #1 on my susicious list.

And I'm glad you just said that because you were close to #1 on mine, lol.

hahaha Yea, I thought it was time.

We have two suspects? Cam & Phoc?

LOL okay, Tiff. So we are down to ...



Kenya, Cam, Phoc


and possibly Deet (although I don't really suspect him)


So, yes, we could either all agree to lynch one, then kill the second at night, then follow the third, lol. Then day 4 we will have it narrowed down depending on who dies and who survives...

OR we could agree to lynch one and follow one and then just lynch the survivor day 4....

I'm leaning between Kenya and Cam just because I know Phoc has had a reason not to be online. But, I understand he is still a suspect and could very well be the last Grinch.

Ghost of Christmas Brant wrote:

Can we just send one of them to Ice Jail and have the Christmas Angel eliminate the other one tonight?

Then if Kenya's still here tomorrow, it has to be her, lol.

That was my sentiment exactly, we're on the same brain wave here lol Also, the ornament holder would have to send that ornament to me lol To guarantee the grinch can't take off with me before i can banish him.

Tiffani Tree wrote:

Ghost of Christmas Brant wrote:

Tiffani Tree wrote:

The Christmas Angel DID use her power the first night at the request of a few that posted in the thread. She then regretted it the next night, but then we had another free night anyway lol She now wishes she had it for the next night.

So this means, if Brant was snug in his bed, he couldn't have killed anyone right? Since Santa was killed last night. I'm glad you checked Brant because he was #1 on my susicious list.

And I'm glad you just said that because you were close to #1 on mine, lol.

hahaha Yea, I thought it was time.

We have two suspects? Cam & Phoc?

Why is Kenya not a suspect?

Phoc voted Santa... last round. He did it to be a goofball I assumed, however, could have been a clever disguise... i mean, who would .. vote santa?

Poor evil roles. I don't actually think it's possible for them to win now.

I'd be more comfortable voting for Cam than Kenya, just because I feel that Kenya is a long-shot. Not really sure between Cam and Phoc. Either is fine.

I am ruling her out in my head because.... if it were her And moosey as the grinches... why would moose attempt a kill on Santa..... after Kenya... gives him the ornament, arent they supposed to be working together?

Tiffani Tree wrote:

The Christmas Angel DID use her power the first night at the request of a few that posted in the thread. She then regretted it the next night, but then we had another free night anyway lol She now wishes she had it for the next night.

So this means, if Brant was snug in his bed, he couldn't have killed anyone right? Since Santa was killed last night. I'm glad you checked Brant because he was #1 on my susicious list.

I don't think it was a waste. You obviously saved Deet and he was instrumental in saving Mandie from a lynch last round. Thank you!


And yeah, it means Brant is cleared....he obviously looked guilty in a lot of eyes, lol.

This is Ho Ho Horrible!! What are we supposed to do without our jolly fat man??

Anyways, I'm going to go ahead and put a Vote for Phoc because even though he can't be on as much as others, he could still just as easily be a grinch. And he hasn't really given me much of a reason to believe otherwise, especially with all these people being cleared and whatnot.

Also, i have no idea who had the ornament last night.

Merry Mandie wrote:

Also, i have no idea who had the ornament last night.

Then we can do the Ice Jail one suspect today strategy, let Cindy Lou investigate one of the final two tonight, and end the game tomorrow based on which one of the final two suspects is cleared.

I'd rather actually do the Ice Jail today, Christmas Angel eliminate tonight, and get the final one tomorrow just in case the evil roles try to throw us off with a No Abduction to make Cindy not be able to gather information tonight. It's more guaranteed that way.

Merry Mandie wrote:

I am ruling her out in my head because.... if it were her And moosey as the grinches... why would moose attempt a kill on Santa..... after Kenya... gives him the ornament, arent they supposed to be working together?

Yes, but they lost Jack Frost and were down to two. So, in order to win the game they have to survive. What better way to ensure that Kenya survives than to "clear" her by having Moose go after Santa after Kenya hands him the ornament?

As far as Kenya's arguments that she didn't have to tell us she had it - I knew she had it before she spelled it out. Or at least I figured she or Moosey did. Because we were the first three to post after Thian put up day 2 and I tried to get it. I didn't, so I knew it had to be one of them - and since Kenya's always invisible I figured she was on before she posted.

I'm just saying this in case she says "why would I tell you all I had it?" She did because we would know anyway. It doesn't prove she was innocent.

Also, another point to be made. It could be that derB got the ornament and Kenya said she had it because I voted her. She wanted to deter people from voting her, which it did. She also would know derB was safe if he really had it.

Then, at night, derB passes the ornament to Santa and we all assume Kenya does. They don't bother attempting an abduction, just use that to "prove" Kenya innocent and work together to keep each other from getting votes the next day. They have been closely following each other the whole game. That could have just been Moose trying to gain Kenya's confidence, or it could be just doing the obvious. Hide in plain sight. Especially if we "cleared" Kenya.

I could be wrong - I have been before, lol. I still want to vote for Kenya.

I dont' really think of Kenya as cleared, I just think of her the least suspicious out of the three others.

We have a pretty good set up here because if we send one of Phoc or Cam to jail today, and they are an elf, the ornament holder passes the ornament to me, I banish the other suspect, and if he as well was just an elf, then that means Kenya is our Grinch. Right?

I dont see why the grinch wouldnt kill me after we send someone to the Ice Jail. If I follow the grinch and he wants to kill me then, Im dead and yall have no more info from me.

Even if the Christmas Angel is abducted over the night, can she still use her power to eliminate someone? If so, this game is over tomorrow regardless of who is abducted in the night.

Merry Mandie wrote:

I dont see why the grinch wouldnt kill me after we send someone to the Ice Jail. If I follow the grinch and he wants to kill me then, Im dead and yall have no more info from me.

Yes but like Brant says, we can end this game with the next day phase,
by taking out three people in this day, night and next day.

That's if we're wrong anyway. We could easily send the Grinch to jail today and the game will be over.

Tiffani Tree wrote:

I dont' really think of Kenya as cleared, I just think of her the least suspicious out of the three others.

We have a pretty good set up here because if we send one of Phoc or Cam to jail today, and they are an elf, the ornament holder passes the ornament to me, I banish the other suspect, and if he as well was just an elf, then that means Kenya is our Grinch. Right?

Okay, I still suspect Kenya but I understand why she is more of a longshot than Phoc or Cam. I know why Phoc hasn't been around so I want to hear from him before voting him. Therefore, if you all want to vote Cam and then decide who to "go after in the night" based on Kenya and Phoc's defenses that is fine with me.

HOHOHOHOHOHO. *puts hands on his chest and falls over dead*

Ghost of Christmas Brant wrote:

Even if the Christmas Angel is abducted over the night, can she still use her power to eliminate someone? If so, this game is over tomorrow regardless of who is abducted in the night.

No, she can't. But the ornament holder can either pass it to Tiff or Mandie so one of them will be able to do their thing. I agree it makes sense for the Angel to kill (jail, abduct lol?) someone since that is more effective in case the Grinch didn't attempt anything.

Im fine with whatever yall want to do. Just point me in the right direction and I'll put whatever name down as my vote for IceJail.

If we send Cam, and the Angel eliminates Phoc, and someone STILL DIES... then, Kenya could be our other grinch.

Where is Kenya anyway, Id like to hear from her!

Hey everyone, I hope you all had a wonderful Christmas!! I know I did.

I also felt really stupid when the results came in, but I didn't see it like you all did, just like when I believed Brant that other game along side Jackie. I wasn't seeing what you all saw when you guys voted for Brant but near the end there I was starting to get it and I realized it made more sense to risk it being just an elf over a possible role.

I love how you all are like it has to be Phoc, Cam or Kenya. What about Tiffani, she was never cleared by anyone and you all are just giving her a free pass too? I know why I'm not 100% cleared but sending me to ice jail isn't going to help you guys out but if you want to do that to narrow down your search that is fine with me.

Also I wanted to ask you something Jackie.. why did you ask Santa to pass the ornament to Mandie.. that wouldn't have been wise and I hope he didn't do that because we all knew Mandie would be safe last night due to Santa being kidnapped.

But anyway I really think the grinch has to be Cam or Phoc. I don't know which one but I'll go for the one that's being the quietest.. I know he hasn't had internet but he has been more quiet.. just like he was the last time he was an evil role.. that could be a part of it.. not to mention him being on the board for a long period of time and not posting that one night.

I vote to send Phoc to ice jail.

Edit: You all talk too fast anyway I wish I thought like you do Jackie because if I was a grinch I think I'd be really sloppy lol since you are coming up with all these possibilities and my brain just doesn't function that way at all. For starters I would not latch on to another grinch if I were a grinch that would be stupid. I made it really obvious that I agreed with Chrismoose about a lot of things and even though he turned out to be a grinch, I think he was just agreeing with me to get my trust, which he did have unfortunately. I really need to get in the frame of mind that nobody is innocent in my head. I just believe to easily I guess.