Witches 2 ~ Hocus Pocus Day 2

sorry i meant to say "yay for the no kill night"

I went back to read the votes (to see if you were right rather than just taking your word for it lol ) and you ARE right lol they are the only ones who failed to cast a vote for lynch last round. I also realized, that PhocQ posted and retracted his vote for Jordan and placed one on Kyle.


I will hold off on voting for now to give PhocQ a chance and also, I would like to hear more from Virtuanno...... I also should point out that Thian and DerB weren't around last night really either to chime in much, Im curious to hear what they have to say.

I RETRACT MY VOTE FROM PHOCQ

I just read my post and I said I voted Virt last "nightime" but I meant daytime. Sorry but I fractured my shoulder yesterday skiing (actually my humerius head however you spell it) and I'm on meds so dont expect all my posts to be perfect.

anyway just wanted to also point out that yes, Phoc hasn't been on since thursday but that was the last day of the day phase so I dont find that to be terribly suspicious. Also, there are a few who havent posted since the new day round and I think they just haven't popped in to see results yet. Not trying to defend phoc or anyone else but for now these are my reasons I dont feel like jumping on the bandwagon against him ... at least yet.

Oh man! Yeah, we got a little close there, we have a whole day phase to use here folks, it's the only time we get to actually discuss. It does just kinda feel like a continuation of day one, though.

Jackie, I am sorry to hear that. I hope you get to rest real well and heal up fast!

Yea, I am all for keeping my vote on Phoc, I will own up to the vote if I am wrong, but the pressure is there, let's explore other options while we have the time. As has been brought up, Cam has not voted, but he was against a lynch. To be sure, I am always leary of those who don't care to add to the investigation.

Ok, I guess first off if you guys want to lynch me because I am not the most active person in the game then I do understand. However, let's not blow things out of proportion and say "OMG! he hasn't been on since Thursday" lol. As Jackie pointed out I was on during the last day of our day round and tried to help get a majority vote on someone. This round has only been up for a day or so and there are other people who haven't posted yet and yet I am the only one who was singled out.

So... that leads me to believe the people who are over-exaggerating my lack of posting are either ignorant or trying to set me up for an easy lynch. I might be a pretty cool looking guy.... but I ain't no Lee Majors! ("The Fall Guy" reference for you kiddies out there)


My first instinct when I saw nobody was killed at night was that the witches didn't all send in the same name. After I read the post Pete made a few hours before the night deadline "Witches, I need all 3 to vote the same person or no one dies." , I thought the witches must not be on the same page and I figured it was likely nobody would die at night. I think maybe all 3 witches DID send a name, they just didn't send the same name.

Now, I would really like to hear from the people who voted for me.

derb - Your reason for voting me was "As far as I can tell, everyone was around lately, except for PhocQ." This is factually incorrect. Now that you know your facts are wrong, what is your reason for having a vote on me?

Dragonldy - Your reasoning was "I'll go along with you guys and ......" Now, I do understand that you rarely have an opinion of your own but feel free to use that noggin' of yours and put some thought into this. Do you really think I am a witch or do you just not want to end up with a no-lynch again?

Jordan - Your reasoning was.... meh, you really didn't have one did you? Is that how you will be this entire game? Are you just going to talk about trivial things and when it comes to actually thinking about this game you are going to play follow the leader? If so, then I feel my vote on you last round was warranted.

Kyle - You also provided no reason for lynching me and no reason for lifting your vote and no reason for your vote on Tiffani. It's your vote on Tiffani that most puzzles me because she is the person I feel is least likely to be a witch. I want to vote for you again solely because you voted for the person I think is most likely innocent. Well...that plus the fact you add nothing to this game. You point fingers for no apparent reasons but in the end you never did vote to lynch anyone last round.

Virtuanno - Your reason for voting me was "he hasn't given us anything to work on"???? Really dude? lol What exactly am I supposed to do? Leave you a little trail of Reese's Pieces for you to follow into my bedroom where I will reveal to you whether I am a witch or not?


I think in the end I find Kyle and Virtuanno to be the 2 best choices to lynch. Neither of them add anything of substance to the game and yet both of them are quite willing to point their fingers at people they have no reason to think is guilty. Not to mention the two of them helped keep us from coming to a lynch last round by not voting for anyone.

Tiffani, that's a good point about the witches possibly wanting PhocQ out if he's not going to allow them to make a kill. I was thinking about that too. Maybe it's best for our preservation to not kill him then? Do we definitely think he's a witch?

And Kyle, you said you tried to check someone out. Are you claiming a role?

Vote: Jordan

Your lack of reasoning and sheeping is alarming. Explain your vote clearly my fine fellow.

Not even a day or so Phoc, I was thinking the same thing when I popped on this morning and saw all the posts and then Mandie pointed out that this Day just started last night. After 9pm i think the first post says.

I also wondered the same thing as you, that the witches didn't send in the same name since Pete made that post about the witches. And kind of like he threw in the other night time roles as an after thought?

Kyle pulled this last day time round. Pointing fingers, no reasoning for votes, and then turns around, retracts his vote and doesn't vote. Now he's voted two people with no reason, having already retracted his vote once in less than 24 hours.


I had my suspicions about Kyle last round, and nothing's changed.



I vote for Kyle

Caroling Cam wrote:

Tiffani, that's a good point about the witches possibly wanting PhocQ out if he's not going to allow them to make a kill. I was thinking about that too. Maybe it's best for our preservation to not kill him then? Do we definitely think he's a witch?

And Kyle, you said you tried to check someone out. Are you claiming a role?

Cam, I was actually just making a wonderment (is that what i mean? lol) I dont' think Phoc is a witch at all, but with the thought that all three witches didn't send in the same name, makes me think the other witches would be pissy. I also wonder who the witches wanted to kill, if that person was protected and we just won't know either way


Maybe Kyle is trying to claim a role to save himself since it might have worked for Jordan last day time?

Tiffani wrote:

Caroling Cam wrote:

Tiffani, that's a good point about the witches possibly wanting PhocQ out if he's not going to allow them to make a kill. I was thinking about that too. Maybe it's best for our preservation to not kill him then? Do we definitely think he's a witch?

And Kyle, you said you tried to check someone out. Are you claiming a role?

Cam, I was actually just making a wonderment (is that what i mean? lol) I dont' think Phoc is a witch at all, but with the thought that all three witches didn't send in the same name, makes me think the other witches would be pissy. I also wonder who the witches wanted to kill, if that person was protected and we just won't know either way


Maybe Kyle is trying to claim a role to save himself since it might have worked for Jordan last day time?

I was actually surprised that Kyle didn't vote last time. When I went back to check I had forgotten and didn't expect to see him name as a no vote after all his accusing, as you pointed out. My only issue is, why claim a role this early if it's a lie? I guess his newness makes me want to excuse some of his strange behavior but then I agree he is acting suspicious and maybe we should just call a spade a spade? Is that the saying?

Tiffani wrote:

Kyle pulled this last day time round. Pointing fingers, no reasoning for votes, and then turns around, retracts his vote and doesn't vote. Now he's voted two people with no reason, having already retracted his vote once in less than 24 hours.

This is actually what i meant to quote with my last post. Maybe I shouldn't post right after I've taken percocet.

DEADLINE: Thursday, February 17th @ 9pm EST

VOTES: (Majority vote is 7)
4 votes of 7 ~ PhocQ (derB, Dragonldy640, Jordan, Virtuanno Murphy)
1 vote of 7 ~ Tiffani (Kyle)
1 vote of 7 ~ Virtuanno Murphy (JJ)
1 vote of 7 ~ Jordan (Thian)
1 vote of 7 ~ Kyle (Tiffani)


Pending Votes (4): Caroling Cam, PhocQ, Stacie, Mandie

*If I'm missing any votes please inform me, thank you

Jordan, are you male or female? Sorry, just want clarification and your name could go either way.

He's male.

PhocQ, I never stated it as a fact that you were not on. That is what the "As far as I can tell" part of my statement was about. Concerning my train of thought, it made sense, so I chased that lead.


About Kyle. I see where people are a little put off by him, but really he comes off as more and more legit, albeit a little bit of a loose canon, to me. Sure he has been brazen, but really, if he is a witch, why call all this attention to yourself again after how last round went? Why go as far as to claim a role, when if he was lying, the true role holder would be able to call him out? None of this speaks witch to me. At all.

I tend to think now that the people who are still stuck on him are fear mongering and trying to turn people against him, aiming at an easy lynch. To me, that is witchy.

are you looking for someone to call him out on his potential role claim derB? he has only stated he "checked" someone last night.

He could have checked someone as a witch
he could have checked someone as a tracker
He could have checked someone because he is what ever.

Not at all, Thian. I think it is evident that he likely has a role at this point, beyond that I am not particularly concerned what it is, I am concerned that we are just as likely (more likely, in my opinion) now rallying for the lynch of one of our good roles as we are lynching a witch.

Right but you seem to want someone to come out and challenge a role that hasn't even been confirmed yet. I had a feeling you are trying to role fish here and try to out people so it will be easy to target someone and hopefully get out a role.

PhocQ wrote:

Jordan - Your reasoning was.... meh, you really didn't have one did you? Is that how you will be this entire game? Are you just going to talk about trivial things and when it comes to actually thinking about this game you are going to play follow the leader? If so, then I feel my vote on you last round was warranted.

I had a reason Day 1 for voting you, I don't feel I need a "new" reason if we didn't learn anything "new." So I will ignore this question in its entirety since it does not apply to me.

PhocQ wrote:

Jordan - Your reasoning was.... meh, you really didn't have one did you? Is that how you will be this entire game? Are you just going to talk about trivial things and when it comes to actually thinking about this game you are going to play follow the leader? If so, then I feel my vote on you last round was warranted.

I had a reason Day 1 for voting you, I don't feel I need a "new" reason if we didn't learn anything "new." So I will ignore this question in its entirety since it does not apply to me.

Thian wrote:

Vote: Jordan

Your lack of reasoning and sheeping is alarming. Explain your vote clearly my fine fellow.

Please read the above to PhocQ. It should apply to your "lack of reasoning" comment. As for the sheeping - is that a creative way of saying I like to wait to hear some others thoughts til I speak up for myself? I don't see anything wrong or suspicious about that. This is my first game, I'm still not sure exactally what thoughts or info of my own I should release or when if ever. If that comes across as sheepish then you should just perma-lock a vote to lynch me each round because I will never speak up first.

Not at all, Thian! I don't 'want' him to be challenged, I feel he is being truthful. My intentions are to point out to those who keep bringing his name up that he is unlikely a witch, IMO.

I still feel like there is something going on with Kyle.. can't put my finger on it just yet, but I'm leaning toward keeping my vote the same. However, PhocQ is still on my radar. I just feel like he's been fishy this go around, and I think everyone starting off day two by voting for him (well not everyone) is also a red flag. I am not stating my vote yet, as I could be pulled either way, but I believe one of these fellows is a guilty party!

Jordan, since round 1 people have been asking you to explain yourself and since round 1 you have either been saying you don't need to for some reason or that you have already when... no, you have not. I am not necessarily saying you're a witch but I really think you should go back to the beginning and read your posts and people's comments and try to see where we're coming from. These are all valid requests and I do not see that you have been answering anything. Just that you are highly defensive.

Stacie wrote:

I still feel like there is something going on with Kyle.. can't put my finger on it just yet, but I'm leaning toward keeping my vote the same. However, PhocQ is still on my radar. I just feel like he's been fishy this go around, and I think everyone starting off day two by voting for him (well not everyone) is also a red flag. I am not stating my vote yet, as I could be pulled either way, but I believe one of these fellows is a guilty party!

Stacie, your "can't put my finger on it" is like a "gut feeling." Do you have anything else? Something more specific and concrete that we can understand? Also, what is "fishy" with Phoc and why do you specify "this go around?" Do you have previous experience with him? I would just like to hear more of an explanation for your suspicions.

Well, as I stated in the first round, Kyle pointed fingers pretty quickly with nothing to back it up with. Therefore, I am still leery about him. My Gut Feeling was explained on the first day.
As far as PhocQ goes, there's nothing there to really back up anything. That's why I haven't switched my vote. I'm reading everyone else's thoughts on him, and most make a valid point (DerB, Virtuanno).. but not enough to sway me yet.

Kyle, after being called out last round, has now kind of kept to himself and he's only posted a couple of times. I think after not being lynched last round, he's trying to switch up his game.
I feel like he is hiding something.