Witches 2 ~ Hocus Pocus Day 2

Dragonldy640 wrote:

Tiffani, both Phoc and Virtuanno were MIA most of last round. The witches didn't kill anyone, so one of the reasons may have been that a witch didn't vote. If a witch didn't vote, then they were probably MIA. But you trying to protect Phoc, makes me think that you and Phoc are both witches. Why else would you take up for him so adamantly?

I did? Maybe learn the definition of adamantly perhaps? Then maybe go read both day phases. And my POINT was, that since Phoc is NOT MIA this day phase, why would it automatically make him suspect if there is another no kill? I asked for your reasons, not a repeat of what everyone said about last round. It's funny, you're posting a LOT more this game than normal, yet you're still just repeating what everyone else has to say and looking like you only read bits and pieces of what is posted.

Virtuanno Murphy wrote:

Thian, you're the only person in whom I've noticed a change. Usually you're front and centre dominating conversations and putting the pressure on absolutely everyone and questioning absolutely everything that they post.

I can't help but feel that you haven't been doing that as much, and your questions are lame. Maybe it's because in previous times I was more worried because a) I was scum b) The first time you were scum and voted for me 'randomly' at the start of the first round.


Let me ask you, why the sudden drop in your interrogation methods? I feel like I'm in the principal's office, instead of feeling like I was about to be put on death row.

I dont' find it different than when he was in Mafia. This is what he and derB did to me and it brought a lot out of me so that I was more vocal and more forthcoming with my ideas.

DEADLINE: Thursday, February 17th @ 9pm EST

VOTES: (Majority vote is 7)
2 votes of 7 ~ PhocQ (derB, Jordan)
1 vote of 7 ~ Tiffani (Kyle)
4 votes of 7 ~ Virtuanno Murphy (JJ, Dragonldy640, Stacie, Mandie)
1 vote of 7 ~ Cam (Thian)
1 vote of 7 ~ Kyle (Tiffani)
1 vote of 7 ~ Jordan (Cam)


Pending Votes (2): PhocQ, Virtuanno Murphy

*If I'm missing any votes please inform me, thank you

Mandie: I still do strongly believe PhocQ is a witch. I believe it was an inactive person who caused a no kill. Though I am sympathetic of Virt being occasionally powerless, it doesn't rule him out for me either, not by a long shot. I am just slightly less suspicious of him due to the fact that I saw his name on the "online in the last 24 hours" list at the start of this round. Perhaps that is clouding my judgement, that he was a party to the no-kill is equally as likely. I would like to see a lynch this round to be sure, I would like a little more sold info on who votes who and what it means in the upcoming round. Virt seems a likely candidate, and it doesn't look like PhocQ is gonna see any more spotlight any time soon. I will still be watching him though...

I retract my vote for PhocQ

I vote to lynch Virtuanno.

Virt:

There's nothing different in my behaviour from any games I have played. Principals office or death row has absolutely nothing to do with your uselessness.

Currently what we have learnt from your posts.
1. Because questions are already asked, you feel it is okay to not volunteer information or provide anything further to the discussion so you will sit back and let others do that for you. ((of course you are going to whinge and attest to the fact that you didn't say that, well you did and people have taken note of it))

2. You have appealed to emotion by saying "trust me guys, keeping me around in the long run will be for the best" Really? when all you had to offer was nothing so far in contributions?

3. The only reason why my questions are lame to you is because you are being targetted in my interrogation process trying to get more out of you. It is like pulling teeth, so why is it so hard for you to contribute. ((I realize that your power is out, and I am alright with that, but when you do come in and post, you should make it count.))


Currently I want everyones name, a list of your thoughts on each player, and who you would not vote for at this point. Give us something substancial.


Cam, Jordan, Dragonldy:
I would like a list of your witch reads right now too.

PhocQ:

where are you, please get in here


Jackie:
You are currently defending PhocQ quite a bit. Partnering much? He hasn't been around so how can anyone else be trust worthy of him?

Thian, how am I defending him? I said I agreed with Dragonldy's point that either Virt or Phoc could be a witch who was inactive and that's why there was no nightkill last night round. I also said between the two I find Phoc's posts to be more useful. Obviously he hasn't had any in the last couple of days and Virt has been posting more, which is a good thing. I have no problem voting Phoc if he seems useless, or seems to be a witch. But, in your own words above you seem to be agreeing with how little I feel Virt has been saying even when he does post.

I was just about to ask you, Tiffani, Cam, Kyle and Jordan, what will it take to get you to help with a lynch here? I find Cam probably the most suspicious out of the other people with votes so if you refuse to change and others are looking at Cam as well I would consider voting him. Right now, though, I think you need to really ask yourself if you want another no lynch round? If not, some people need to get on the same page and quit scattering their votes.

I still think Virt is the most suspicious to me - around on the board but not posting and when he does it has little substance. That is my feeling right now but I also don't want another day round to go by with no chance of getting a witch.

DEADLINE: Thursday, February 17th @ 9pm EST

VOTES: (Majority vote is 7)
1 vote of 7 ~ PhocQ (Jordan)
1 vote of 7 ~ Tiffani (Kyle)
5 votes of 7 ~ Virtuanno Murphy (JJ, Dragonldy640, Stacie, Mandie, derB)
1 vote of 7 ~ Cam (Thian)
1 vote of 7 ~ Kyle (Tiffani)
1 vote of 7 ~ Jordan (Cam)


Pending Votes (2): PhocQ, Virtuanno Murphy

*If I'm missing any votes please inform me, thank you

Sitting here watching as the failed attempt to quickly lynch me stalls, dies and then switches over to almost as quick of a lynch on Virtuanno only lends more evidence to my earlier theory. I still feel there is a very strong possiblity that Virtuanno and I are both being framed for last night round's non-kill.

Do you guys forget that it was I who first suggested that the reason there was no night kill was because of what Pete said and that a witch screwed up? lol Funny how quickly that gets spun into me being the very person who I was pointing my finger at.



Given how quickly I got 6 votes on me, it was surprising that the witches didn't swoop in and finish me off. I only needed one more vote and I was toast. Even after a vote or 2 was taken off, if there were still 3 witches who hadn't voted for me yet, I would expect them to at least try and finish me off. But it didn't happen.

That leads me to believe at least 1 of the 6 votes against me is a witch. Very possibly 2 of them. And also makes me not as suspicious of Mandie, JJ, Tiff and Thian because they held back and enabled everyone to take a second look at things. Even Kyle switched his vote, quite possibly because he realized he was putting me in a position for a swift lynch (or maybe I give him too much credit lol).

That only leaves me with Derb, Dragon and Jordon as the possible witch who voted for me. When I also factor in that both Derb and Dragon so easily flipped to virtuanno, just like I expected the witches to do... I feel I have to vote for one of them.


You guys don't have to agree with my theory. I'm basically just thinking out loud here. But at least you guys know why I feel I should put my vote on one of those 2.

Mandie, JJ, Thian, Tiff and Virtuanno. You guys are basically the peeps I trust the most so if there is one of Dragon or Derb you want to vote for, I'm in. If not then I will just pick one of them as the rest of you lynch Virt.

I'm gonna go ahead and Retract my vote for Jordan at this time. Nothing ever really came of it. And it's not helping us in the game.

I'm going to Vote for Virtuanno because while I know he's putting effort into the game now, I still think (as others do) he (or PhocQ) missed the witch vote deadline. And before anyone goes and thinks I'm a witch and may have been the one to miss the deadline, I'm not. I have never missed a deadline in any of these games. I may not be as active as some others, but I'll always do my duty if I do indeed have a night time action.

I still want to vote for you, PhocQ. Badly. But keeping the town away from a lynch to self-serve my own bias hurts us just as much as it does to possibly be wrong. I don't see a sudden swing back to you happening this round, like I would like to see, but in sticking to my theory of "somebody didn't show", Virt also fits the bill. Not as well as you do, in my eyes, but he still does.

I will admit the only reason I hadn't voted for him was because I kind of felt bad that he might be getting the shaft here, not being able to log in as much as he would like. I realized that was a poor choice on my part, and switched to him. I believe that somebody didn't show up, and that is why there was a no-kill. I was set on you, and changed to Virt when I felt it was the best option to shed some light on the situation. Flexibility is not a witch-exclusive quality.

Waiting for others to make moves and jumping behind them is though. Why must you wait until the movement against Dragonldy or myself gains momentum before your declare your vote? Is it because it doesn't matter who you get, as long as it is somebody who named you? You pretty much called her and myself out already and stated your future intentions, so it's not like you would be able to hide in the middle votes for long, so what is holding you back?

derB wrote:

I still want to vote for you, PhocQ. Badly. But keeping the town away from a lynch to self-serve my own bias hurts us just as much as it does to possibly be wrong. I don't see a sudden swing back to you happening this round, like I would like to see, but in sticking to my theory of "somebody didn't show", Virt also fits the bill. Not as well as you do, in my eyes, but he still does.

I will admit the only reason I hadn't voted for him was because I kind of felt bad that he might be getting the shaft here, not being able to log in as much as he would like. I realized that was a poor choice on my part, and switched to him. I believe that somebody didn't show up, and that is why there was a no-kill. I was set on you, and changed to Virt when I felt it was the best option to shed some light on the situation. Flexibility is not a witch-exclusive quality.

Waiting for others to make moves and jumping behind them is though. Why must you wait until the movement against Dragonldy or myself gains momentum before your declare your vote? Is it because it doesn't matter who you get, as long as it is somebody who named you? You pretty much called her and myself out already and stated your future intentions, so it's not like you would be able to hide in the middle votes for long, so what is holding you back?

Hmmm something bothers me about this post, deb. You accuse phoc of holding back and yet you state you are not voting for who you really want to. And then you say he has pretty much stated his intentions. Well, to me, that is a good thing. He's being transparent. Call it defending him if you will. I just call it stating what I am seeing.

Derb, how can I NOT suspect you?

First you say your reason for voting for me is to "just hear from me". Then when I do post, one of the first things I say is that I didn't think all 3 witches sent the same name. A theory almost identical to your's.

Now you are trying to say that I come on after supposedly screwing up the witches and the very first thing I want to do is call attention to Pete's post and the fact it's likely a witch screwed up? Really? The reason your attempt on a quick lynch of me didn't work is because the majority of the peeps in this game are too smart for such transparent smoke-screens like "Phoc isn't around". Despite the fact when I do post they are longer, and filled with more insight than the thoughts of everyone who voted against me put together.

Nobody has actually given any real reason for calling me inactive. A half-dozen people have asked why so many people think that and NOT ONE of you have even bothered to try and give a reason.



Also, given Cam's latest post. I have to add him to Derb and Dragonldy as people I would vote for if other's agree. The reason I don't vote for one of them is simple, I don't really care which one. If other people have reason to suspect one of you over the other then I am hoping they make their case.

That is why I have been on the fence as far as DerB is concerned. I sometimes think he is trying to help us, and then other times, I feel maybe he is contradicting himself. It's just been wierd for me to get a handle on DerB.

JJ wrote:

I was just about to ask you, Tiffani, Cam, Kyle and Jordan, what will it take to get you to help with a lynch here?

I guess because I wasn't sold on Virtuanno 100% but it does make sense that he could've been the missing witch because of having no power. But I just hate, how when I had no internet for a week, I was almost lynched and I was a good guy. So I hate to jump in there.
With Phoc, he might not have been posting as much as everyone else, but Mandie said he was on the site, so he easily would've been able to send in a vote if he was a witch, which is why I'm not sold on him either.


I will retract my vote for Kyle though


And place my vote on Virtuanno


I'd love to be proven wrong and he is a witch. I'm just leery because of my own past circumstances.

*raises an eye to the Virt wagon* lol

Pete wrote:

DEADLINE: Thursday, February 17th @ 9pm EST

VOTES: (Majority vote is 7)
2 votes of 7 ~ PhocQ (Jordan)
1 vote of 7 ~ Tiffani (Kyle)
7 votes of 7 ~ Virtuanno Murphy (JJ, Dragonldy640, Stacie, Mandie, derB, Cam, Tiffani)
1 vote of 7 ~ Cam (Thian)



Pending Votes (2): PhocQ, Virtuanno Murphy

*If I'm missing any votes please inform me, thank you

Am i correct?

Mandie Leigh wrote:

That is why I have been on the fence as far as DerB is concerned. I sometimes think he is trying to help us, and then other times, I feel maybe he is contradicting himself. It's just been wierd for me to get a handle on DerB.

I agree. I'm definitely seeing contradictions with some of derB's posts. Cam's post just struck me for some reason, though. I guess that is too vague and at the risk of doing what I hate to see others do, let me elaborate. I feel like Cam is usually a lone wolf (no reference to werewolf intended) and does his own thing without usually caring if he is in the majority. Now to see him suddenly add his vote to Virt...it is making me feel like he just wants to see a lynch. Yeah, yeah I know this is what most of us do and should want but...Cam doesn't usually. I know I shouldnt use past games/actions but it's hard to ignore.

Oh I posted without reading yours. Oh well...and yeah I think you are correct.

WOAHHHH Virt is at 7?!?! so thats the hammer!!!

Locking for Pete.

sorry guys, I wasn't home, just got home and will put together a write up of the results and begin night round shortly