Season 6 - Saw - Day 3

The electric chairs were centered in the middle of the room in a circle.
Every chair facing each other, the group would stare death in the face as another would perish in the trial. the rusted metal chairs smelt of burnt skin. The names of the survivors were listed in blood on the backs of the chairs.

The screen lit up and the puppet began to speak.
"If you want to leave this room and into your next trial, sit down and await a shock of your life"

the puppet laughed and the screen shut off.

The group gathered and reluctantly. Fear crept across their faces. A low hum was heard the lights flickered and the sound of a scream was heard.





The lights turned back on, and faced Jackie who had been cooked to death infront of everyone. the door to the next room opened as the group hurried away from the mess before them.

They entered a room with a small clear box, inside a key sat. Behind the small case was a large grinder.

the screen turned back on.


"It seems as though my accomplices are doing a great job, at least for me. Turns out Jackie's time was up with us. Before you is a key. In order to release the key and into your next trial. You must place one of the group into the meat grinder before you. The remains will drop down behind and will break the glass and freeing the key so you may open up your next trial.

good luck and let the game begin. You have until November 12th 2010 23:59 EST"

The screen shut off once again and the timer began to count down. It will be 6 for majority.

good luck.

Player List 10 Players Left!
1. Tiffani
2. Kenya
3. DragonTear
4. Deetster
5. Gary
6. Alexmel
8. Camalamadingdong
9. Pete
11. Dragonldy640
13. PhocQ

GAME OVER:
1. Brant - Lynched - Day 1: Jigsaws Accomplice
2. Termy - Night Killed - Night 1: Innocent Victim
3. Virtuanno - Host Killed - Day 2: Innocent victim
4. derBmoose - Lynched - Day 2: Heavily Sedated ((real role innocent victim))
5. Jackie - Night Killed - Night 2: Innocent Victim

2 Accomplices, 1 Detective, 1 Paranoid Weapon Holder, 1 Bodygaurd remain


DEADLINE 12 Novemember 2010 Time 23:59 EST

MAJORITY needed 6 Votes

VOTES:

Pending Votes
Tiffani, Kenya, Dragontear, Deetster, Gary, Alexmel, Dogdude84, Pete, Dragonldy640 PhocQ


remember: all dead must not speak in game anymore. Thank you Day 3 Begins!

AH man!!!! I am so glad I never jumped on the Jackie bandwagon although she ended up dead anyway I just knew my gut was right about her. Now what do we do?!

No kidding, totally agree with you there Tiffani!

Also derBmoose not being an accomplice sucked ass, but at least he did have a role which turned out to be lame anyway with him sadly being one of our own. Although I do think if the accomplices killed her during the night.. at least one of them had to have voted against her and been pushing for her as well..

looks like i was right about derb, i dident say he was an accomplice just that he had a role. and i also stated that i thought jackie was innocent, and it sucks to see her amongst the dead now. but who are the other 2 accomplices?, i hope the seer will have some good information for us, or we can try to find the other accomplices. as for me im thinking of some of the people who are being quiet. gary, pete. and maybe some of the advanced players, cam or deetster. im sure that one of them is an accomplice.

*watches the door close to the room with Jackie's toasty body*

That was almost as hard watching Jackie burn as it was casting my vote to lynch her. Misguided and unintuitive as it was.


Good thing is the accomplices freed me up from having my suspicion of Jackie nagging at the back of my mind. Bad thing is I still don't know who the accomplices are.

Maybe it's best to go back through the past 2 days for each person in the eyes of them being an accomplice. Would it make sense? If so, who would they be working with?

If the Cop does have a confirmation of an accomplice it might be best to just say so before the end of this round, unless we are actually lynching an accomplice. If all the Cop knows is a couple of innocent people then it may be best to remain quiet for now.

I'm not going to throw any names out there until I go back and look at things some more. I figure enough crazyness has happened that the clues to the accomplice are there, we just gotta figure out which ones they are.

PhocQ wrote:

*watches the door close to the room with Jackie's toasty body*

i had to read that twice. i thought it said tasty body..... i was like whoa... lol

wow, I'm surprised the accomplices chose Jackie, especially since so many people suspected her.

I think I'm gonna tally up who has voted who and post it so we can try and learn something from it. I'll do it if people think it is a good thing to do.

also, again I want to say sorry for being so miserable and not posting much, this has just been a very stressful and hard week for me. I promise I'll try to not let it interfere with the game anymore.

Kenya wrote:

No kidding, totally agree with you there Tiffani!

Also derBmoose not being an accomplice sucked ass, but at least he did have a role which turned out to be lame anyway with him sadly being one of our own. Although I do think if the accomplices killed her during the night.. at least one of them had to have voted against her and been pushing for her as well..

I feel like at this kind of comes off as the attempt of an innocent to try to stop themselves from continually being targetted, or more worrysome, an accomplice attempting to justify their actions last round from the perspective of an innocent. I feel like you are trying really hard to defer attention to the fact that you sacrificed derBmoose who was also an innocent (and to an accomplice would be seen as a powerful innocent).

I also was thinking about the night phase, and said to myself, SPECIFICALLY, because I had isolated my target to you and Jackie, that I felt either you or Jackie as an accomplice would kill off the other because that would be something that wouldn't be expected from that person, and because it would be something to try to make that person look better since they wouldn't kill their "buddy" off, and because people were suspecting you two a bit as an active pair.

I think you Kenya, are my highest suspect now, and this night round which I feel could have been you attempting to deter that target, actually made it stronger from my perspective.

I think I would be able to still compromise on voting Alexmel out over you, because I think he isn't going to contribute much, will get dragged by accomplices if he isn't one, or could easily be someone who is working with an accomplice, and just doesn't really do much, and can continue to squeek by as a a dangerous accomplice simply for being so overlookable.

So yeah. Let me ask this now, because I did it last time to see how two people react when paired.

Kenya, how do you feel about Alexmel being a suspect? Give me some reasons he's not if you don't believe he is.

Jackie.

Sorry I thought you were an accomplice. My gut was wrong!

Also, eww, meat grinder. Do not want to go in that thing.

Deetster wrote:

I also was thinking about the night phase, and said to myself, SPECIFICALLY, because I had isolated my target to you and Jackie, that I felt either you or Jackie as an accomplice would kill off the other because that would be something that wouldn't be expected from that person, and because it would be something to try to make that person look better since they wouldn't kill their "buddy" off, and because people were suspecting you two a bit as an active pair.

would killing the other one off be a smart move if she was an accomplice?, that would just make people suspicious of her, to me it seems like the accomplices are trying to frame kenya. and who had a better motive then you?. so im gonna throw out the first vote

i vote to sacrifice Deetster

Deet, I feel like last game phocq would justify why the wolves would kill each person they would which is what made him supsious. I feel you are now doing the same thing which is making me suspious of you. But I am at work right now trying to type this on my phone but I had to point that out, I will answer your question later though about my thoughts on alexmel.

Pete wrote:

wow, I'm surprised the accomplices chose Jackie, especially since so many people suspected her.

While I totally agree with this, I'm going to break my traditional quietness (for lack of a better term) and say that this is exactly what I would suspect an accomplice to say.

*give Pete a long glaring look.

DragonTear wrote:

Deetster wrote:

I also was thinking about the night phase, and said to myself, SPECIFICALLY, because I had isolated my target to you and Jackie, that I felt either you or Jackie as an accomplice would kill off the other because that would be something that wouldn't be expected from that person, and because it would be something to try to make that person look better since they wouldn't kill their "buddy" off, and because people were suspecting you two a bit as an active pair.

would killing the other one off be a smart move if she was an accomplice?, that would just make people suspicious of her, to me it seems like the accomplices are trying to frame kenya. and who had a better motive then you?. so im gonna throw out the first vote

i vote to sacrifice Deetster

I think if I was an accomplice, I would be much more open minded in my thinking of who I think is an accomplice as to not reduce my options only to very few people. For example, I won't be voting you, despite the fact you voted me. I think that you just don't like that I'm continuing to suspect Kenya, lol, but I do sincerely think she could be an accomplice.

For me, I argued against the lynching of the innocent, and promoted and advertized the lynching of Brant. I wouldn't have done either of those things (albeit as an innocent I got lucky, since I couldn't have possibly KNOWN these things for positive), but I acted on my intuitions, and ultimately did do what was right for the innocents. I ended up even trying to get a Kenya vote to happen with DerB, who admitted he was playing AS IF HE WAS AN INNOCENT, before he left, so he truly as well as an innocent player was having these same "connecting-of-the-dots" that I was.

Moreover, based on their behaviors, I really felt Kenya or Jackie, but NOT both, were accomplices, and now Kenya is the only one left of the two. I think even you can admit based on what we've done (with me going after Kenya WITH DerB who was an innocent, and whom I was trying to protect which would go against my motives since I could have just "given in" and made it look like others trailblazed that lynch. Furthermore I think you need to admit the Kenya hasn't done one thing helpful to the innocents, and I feel like that would have had to occured if not BY ACCIDENT by this time. I just really do expect from Kenya more wise moves, and her constant ongoings of how some of us are crazy, and illogical, when it's her from my perspective either purposefully, or accidentally, almost or successfully leading us astray is odd.

i dunno to me that seemed like a smart moves for the accomplices to do, because it would frame kenya in a way. i guess we will see how the rest of this day will go wont we?

Probably not, lol, it's all assumptions at this point, but I think I get what's happening with this here, lol.

But in any case, what do you think about the stuff regarding Kenya? Sure, she could be framed by means of this one lynch in a way (though I feel it would actually be what Kenya would do, to make her seem FRAMED, when she's not framed, rather it's what's best for her to try to get people to think she's framed, if you can get that one). Plus you can't possibly be saying that she did did or didn't do the things SHE did, cause she did or didn't, lol. But yeah, you don't find her suspicious in any matter?

well not really, she lated the whole game the last one, and she seems like she's playing the same game, but thats not to rule her out. she could be an accomplice just as much as anyone else, but their is other people higher on my suspect list. i was also thinking on how last game that phocq pretty much threw dragonldy up on the block even though they were both accomplice's, even though no body voted her out, it was still a sneaky move. maybee he was doing the same thing with brant i donno. but i do agree with you about alexmel, or maybe we should look closer at pete as well. its hard to say who the accomplice's are atm, but im sure we will find another one

Well, I want to hear what Dogdude has to say before really putting in another vote, because I like to know where his head is out.

I think I'm gonna withhold my vote still some, because this is when we really need to start thinking about coordination, and getting our crap together, and I think certain people have adverse effects to recieving a vote, then that creates a reflex responce in them that is more self-preservation, and less logic. So let's get some of that logic out and hope this round can go a little more like the first, and less like the second.

Deet I agree with a lot of your points about Kenya. Thank you accomplices for not killing him.


Tiffani, I'd like to hear what you actually think about people's actions. Not just your gut feelings.

Dragontear, Idk what you are smoking out there but I want some. You vote Deetster cause you think he set up Kenya then say Kenya could be an accomplice then go on and start throwing random people under the bus. And for the record, I did not put Dragonldy on the block last game, heck I didn't even vote for her. And I did help save her ass by helping the Mandie vote happen. just sayin

I think the argument between Deetster and Kenya being guilty is interesting. I don't know if I agree on either accounts, but will definitely give it more thought.

I also agree with you Deet on the fact that rushing into a vote just makes people wanna save themselves and people don't actually think logically and I think that was our downfall last round. Hopefully this round we can actually think things through and take out an accomplice.

and I know the fact that I haven't posted much somehow makes me seem more suspicious somehow but I'm being honest when I say I haven't had time to get online to post, I've tried to explain that now multiple times.

I personally haven't found you suspicious this game Pete, so if you at all think I am ignoring the posts that you are making, that's not the case at all, you just don't happen to usually prompt the huge things some other people post, nor draw anything out of me when you post that makes me go "hmm, he could be an accomplice, and was saying that for motive X"

So yeah, definitely thanks for the help you do give when you're not busy.

I think if anyone can be criticized for lack of input, it's totally Alexmel and Gary, but they do pop in, but guys, you gotta pop in more! Lol. I have a really strong feeling that if we don't get you guys on here, and really watching, you might get manipulated by the accomplices into doing something bad because you haven't been fully catching on to some stuff. As long as your reading and seeing though, then I trust you'll be able to judge well, but DONT leave us hanging in a later vote, cause if we don't kill you, the accomplices I don't think will, and that will make you staying imperitive...this is taking into account that I trust you are innocents, which personally, I don't fully believe.

I don't think you're both accomplices though either (which FTR idk if that would be the most or least epic thing on earth), but in any case, I think whoever, or if both of you are innocent, you should join the discussion. At this point we have reached the phase of the game that past games significance are fading, and it is THIS here and now, and what people have done in this game, and doing, and trying to convince us that matters. So definitely get in on this!

That's all I gotta say to possibly motivate possible innocents, lol. Besides that though, I will say that I still wanna hear from the Camalamapower, and I still am going to withhold voting, though I think people know where I am primarily teetering.

PhocQ wrote:

That second round was really the key to this game. When Jackie voted Dragonldy, I was a little bit stuck in what I should do. If she got a 6th vote I would have no choice but to vote for her. If a wolf is going to get lynched, the other 2 evil roles need to make sure they are part of it so that some good can come of it. The last thing you want is a wolf dying and being on the other side of the vote.

im sorry i was wrong i guess it was jackie that started that, but im sure as you stated you still would of finished her off.

Lol @ Camalamapower. People kind of on my radar right now are Pete and Kenya. Kenya could be an accomplice that was using Jackie's alliance with her to her advantage. I know it wasn't an "alliance", but they tended to agree with each other on everything and act the same way. Pete, just because some of the stuff he has said sounded accomplice-like. And the way he's been voting. I dunno I'm getting stuck on voting patterns ever since the Brant lynch when my theory was either correct of just lucky. I do think voting patterns do reveal something, it's just hard to tell when to go with it or not. Accomplices may jump on the bandwagon or avoid it at any point in time.

An accomplice could also be one of the more quiet players. I'm gonna look back at who shifted the vote away from alex last round.

*finds the off switch to the meat grinder* Ok let's all go home

Dogdude84 wrote:

*finds the off switch to the meat grinder* Ok let's all go home

Oh alright, that was easy!

Lol, but as for the other stuff you said, nods to most of it, cept I suspect the quieter ones more than Pete, and Dragonldy a bit more than him as well. I think that she still isn't behaving as I would suspect she would have, but I do think it is entirely possible, that like most of us, her gameplay is improving just as an innocent trying to be more involved, which she has been acutely. In terms of voting blocks, and hopping on and off, I do think it was interesting how Jackie flipped to Dragonldy, and then Kenya was reluctant at first to vote her, until I probed it a bit. At the first opportunity however, she jumped right on board the derBmoose like there wasn't a question to its legitimacy as a good place to go, when I believe Dragonldy and others for that matter had far better backing as a target. It almost seems to me that with the DerBmoose push, and the Jackie lynch, a lotta people who didn't vote Brant are following out of the game, but it's only the innocent ones, and I refuse to believe that Brant was lynched by both of his accomplices. It's as if Kenya is attempting to whipe out those who fit her criteria to show THEY are innocent, and to have us wonder if we shouldn't wipe out those who didn't vote Brant, but rather turn our attention to those of us who might have been voting Brant as a strategic accomplice move, or those of us who wanted Jackie out SO badly.

This is all just me completely having tunnel vision of Kenya, and while my inclinations there aren't as strong or as sure as they may sound, she certainly is the person at the top of my list, and I just feel the need to further justify it to people who will refute my beliefs as fishy or unfounded, which I think they aren't. And no Kenya, they aren't nutty either. I think even you can admit that by the fact that you say you are getting "framed" (or someone said that). But that seems to take responsiblity off of what you have been very much responsible for either as an innocent, and I think an innocent would fess up to their mistakes much more "aw shucks", but it seems you spend more time justifying, and diverting, than the normal "darn, we screwed up, I SCREWED UP" that most innocents react to mistakes with....idk, just speaking more to where my mind is now.