Online Reality Gaming Planet |
| | Round 06 | |
| | Author | Message |
---|
Brant Winner
Posts : 2796 Join date : 2009-09-07 Location : Pennsylvania
| Subject: Round 06 Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:31 pm | |
| Um, I feel like I'm saying the same things every round. Oh well. Last round went smoothly, and we're now down to 6. Hopefully Travis can go before Pete if we lose again. I have a feeling that something different will occur, though, this round. We'll have to wait and see. Final 12! | |
| | | Brant Winner
Posts : 2796 Join date : 2009-09-07 Location : Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Round 06 Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:55 am | |
| Interesting, we'll be paired with someone on the other tribe for this challenge and then a pair will win. I'm guessing that means one of several things:
1) Both tribes will go to tribal council and can vote for anyone except the one person who is immune. 2) We'll merge with 10 people able to be ousted, just not the challenge winners. 3) We'll get new tribes based on the pairings after the challenge ends.
I also assume that the winning pair will have their chance at Pops from the Glass Elevator. I don't want to take pick number one. I think that's reserved for Cam, but hopefully I get paired with someone good as #3. Of the options, I expect the first or the second will occur. I hope that both tribes end up going to tribal council because I'm comfortable with my current tribe and then we'd be down to final 10! We could just take out Travis or Pete, whoever wouldn't win immunity. Hopefully Travis. | |
| | | Brant Winner
Posts : 2796 Join date : 2009-09-07 Location : Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Round 06 Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:10 pm | |
| Chat with Kenya Kenya (1:21:32 PM): hi Brant (1:21:56 PM): Hey! Brant (1:22:07 PM): How's it going? Kenya (1:22:18 PM): good, you? and of course I can't be on when the challenge is first posted *sigh* Brant (1:22:30 PM): Was it...tomorrow night? Kenya (1:22:35 PM): yea Brant (1:23:00 PM): Yeah, I think I can make it...but idk if it's going to be live or not. :-\ Brant (1:23:17 PM): I guess it'll be individual Brant (1:24:01 PM): I have a feeling it'll either be a race or a 24-hour, how much can you post thing Brant (1:24:16 PM): If if's the latter, you should still be okay Brant (1:24:20 PM): ...maybe lol Brant (1:24:40 PM): It's going to be really weird working with someone else rather than our tribe Kenya (1:25:14 PM): I don't think he means we work with them.. I'm not sure though.. it's weird cuz it almost looks like Kenya (1:25:21 PM): different possibilities Kenya (1:25:23 PM): like Kenya (1:25:30 PM): maybe we compete agains that person one on one Brant (1:25:48 PM): Ohhh, true Brant (1:26:01 PM): I was thinking we got pairs and competed against the other pairs Kenya (1:26:13 PM): could be that way too Kenya (1:26:19 PM): if it's like that Brant (1:26:21 PM): And then both tribes would go to TC with one person from each tribe immune Kenya (1:26:25 PM): then the winners probably get to pick new tribes or something Brant (1:26:30 PM): ...or that Brant (1:26:30 PM): true Brant (1:26:54 PM): It's nice to have more insight Brant (1:27:02 PM): because I was completely thinking my intepretation was right Brant (1:27:07 PM): but yours sounds just as good or better Brant (1:27:10 PM): :-) Kenya (1:27:11 PM): it could be lol Kenya (1:27:47 PM): or there isn't a challenge at all.. and the numbers will mix us up Brant (1:28:15 PM): Yeah, that too. I was thinking maybe we should try to coordinate Brant (1:28:25 PM): But I don't know if we want odd-even, top-bottom half... Kenya (1:28:40 PM): travis took my 2 Kenya (1:28:42 PM): I was mad Kenya (1:28:42 PM): lol Brant (1:28:51 PM): lol Brant (1:29:12 PM): I was thinking he might have done that to let Cam have #1 Brant (1:29:23 PM): So I just went down Kenya (1:29:28 PM): lol I doubt that Kenya (1:29:31 PM): I would have picked 2 Kenya (1:29:35 PM): because it's like my numbef Kenya (1:29:37 PM): number Kenya (1:29:40 PM): so I picked 4 Kenya (1:29:43 PM): because it's another even number Kenya (1:29:55 PM): why would he pick 2 to let someone else have 1? Kenya (1:29:57 PM): nobody wants 1 Kenya (1:30:01 PM): one usually is bad LOL Brant (1:33:21 PM): Yeah, lol, last person will probably end up getting 1 Brant (1:33:36 PM): Which I'm guessing will be Cam since he's working Brant (1:34:29 PM): Well, if we lose, we can always vote off Travis since he took your number :-P Brant (1:35:41 PM): But again, who knows how numbers will be Brant (1:35:51 PM): Or what tribe we'll have Brant (1:36:28 PM): I still didn't talk to Bryan, but since his pop was called Peace Out pop, I'd be willing to bet it's just that one person can leave their tribe and not realign the whole tribes Kenya (1:39:08 PM): lol exactly Kenya (1:39:16 PM): but yeah I think if we lose we should just get rid of travis Kenya (1:39:21 PM): I feel like he's just as bad as jonathan Kenya (1:39:24 PM): with like alligning with everyone Kenya (1:39:28 PM): he tells everyone the same stuff Kenya (1:39:30 PM): so it's like Kenya (1:39:33 PM): you can't play these games Kenya (1:39:42 PM): when theres a solid 4 alliance on the tribe and nobody knows lol Brant (1:40:12 PM): Rofl, yeah. I feel like he literally sends the same PM to everyone, and we're catching him doing that Brant (1:40:46 PM): And if we're somehow still together even another round after Travis leaves (if Travis leaves) we have Pete still to oust. Brant (1:40:50 PM): But hopefully it doesn't come down to that Kenya (1:41:11 PM): yeah lol Brant (1:41:30 PM): I think it's just going to be really ugly the first collision since we're both so close to the majority Kenya (1:41:34 PM): plus I feel closer to pete than travis Kenya (1:41:40 PM): since I feel like travis is just playing us lol Brant (1:41:43 PM): But we're all even right now :-\ Brant (1:41:51 PM): I feel the same way Brant (1:41:53 PM): exactly Kenya (1:41:59 PM): well I feel deet will swing to our side Kenya (1:42:01 PM): in a merge Brant (1:42:04 PM): Do you? Kenya (1:42:06 PM): yeah Kenya (1:42:14 PM): he hates his tribe Kenya (1:42:16 PM): lol Brant (1:42:26 PM): What's funny is that Pete was mentioning targeting him first to me yesterday, lol. Brant (1:42:34 PM): But interesting Kenya (1:42:37 PM): why? cuz he won the first game on ORG planet? Kenya (1:42:44 PM): Deet and I are friends Kenya (1:42:49 PM): lol Brant (1:43:31 PM): I think because he has the reputation of typically lying and backstabbing people, lol. But I also really like him (I've played with him before plus I played his Cops & Robbers game last winter) even though I don't know if he'd want to work with me again. Brant (1:43:49 PM): If he can join us, that would be awesome. Kenya (1:44:23 PM): well I'd be all mad if he tried to get me out again Kenya (1:44:39 PM): I have the fact that he knows how much I make him feel bad about screwing me over in a different game Kenya (1:44:45 PM): I sometimes still make comments about it Kenya (1:44:47 PM): I doubt he'd do it again lol Kenya (1:45:07 PM): he got so mad in the last game when I was like blindsided basically in the civil game Kenya (1:45:10 PM): he was more mad than me Kenya (1:45:11 PM): that i left Kenya (1:45:42 PM): i do know he's a smart player of course Kenya (1:45:48 PM): but that's what I like about strategizing with him Brant (1:45:50 PM): Ooh, that sucks (the blindsided part) but is good that it could be beneficial to us. Kenya (1:45:54 PM): his thoughts are usually pretty different Brant (1:46:15 PM): Oh yeah, his strategic thoughts are usually different and really, really well-developed Kenya (1:46:24 PM): i hosted him once Brant (1:46:26 PM): I agree Kenya (1:46:27 PM): and it was like woah Kenya (1:46:27 PM): lol Kenya (1:46:34 PM): reading his confessional lol Brant (1:46:39 PM): Was is the Requiem game with a lot of people? Kenya (1:46:44 PM): I should read his confessionals in that civil game Kenya (1:46:55 PM): and make sure he really was gonna be loyal to me lol Kenya (1:47:01 PM): no it wasn't that game Kenya (1:47:04 PM): it was bbtwister Brant (1:47:24 PM): Oooh, I see. Brant (1:47:38 PM): lol, yeah, I'm just getting into those archives. There's just so much it's hard to sift through it all Brant (1:48:30 PM): Bbtwister, when did that take place? Kenya (1:49:30 PM): long time ago lol Brant (1:50:27 PM): When we talked a few months ago, he might have actually mentioned that. We talked about a lot of different things, so it's possible I mentioned working with you and that he'll know about the two of us possibly being aligned. Brant (1:50:47 PM): I could see him possibly trying to split us but not voting for you, lol. Brant (2:00:13 PM): Deetster has a very detailed Round 1 Journal questions set, lol. Brant (2:00:24 PM): I'm reading it now in the right order. Kenya (2:01:48 PM): ooooh so look at this "Below us three are Kenya and Zach, Zach who I conceptualize the other two in my threesome feeling closer with, and wanting to utilize and put higher significance on, but Kenya who I personally feel closer with in this game. Kenya also is a very independent player though, with a strong will, and depending on her agreeance of my opinions, and her desire to have me in this game, that could or could not be a problem, or a great thing." Kenya (2:02:17 PM): so I have to make him feel like I agree with his opinions Kenya (2:02:20 PM): that's what I"m gonna do Kenya (2:02:24 PM): even if I'm being fake Kenya (2:02:25 PM): I have to Kenya (2:02:36 PM): LOL I love looking at peoples strategies and trying to use them against hem.. haha I'm such a freka Brant (2:03:47 PM): Hahaha, I love it, too. It's pretty epic how we're going through confessionals from another game to help us in this one. :-) Kenya (2:03:58 PM): LOL yep! Brant (2:04:29 PM): Yeah, I think that was a good idea with Deetster. In another game, he wanted to work with me because I was really, really honest and open with him and fed him a lot of information. So I'm going to try to do the same if we ever meet without giving him anything important. Brant (2:05:29 PM): That's half of why I'm doing all these crazy, Willy Wonka based answers, too. Travis and I played an alias game (I don't know if he ever realized who I was) last winter, and when he was voted out he insulted the whole cast for being boring and not even trying to play roles. Brant (2:05:52 PM): In that game, he aligned with both tribes and just jumped back and forth. Brant (2:06:07 PM): No one trusted him, so he was voted out almost unanimously. Kenya (2:06:29 PM): oh good I'm glad I can say to deet Kenya (2:06:34 PM): see I had you almost as my number one! Kenya (2:06:39 PM): cuz I had DJ under him Kenya (2:06:42 PM): so glad Kenya (2:15:23 PM): my final words to Deet lol"Caligula: I love you Michael, always will!! Sorry that I sucked again.. but at least you weren't behind it this time LOL!!! I was having some trust issues with you but I do feel that in the end you wouldn't have backstabbed me again, so it's all good. I think we're 100% good now! <3." Brant (2:16:16 PM): And yay for your positive final words to him. He'll trust you a lot if he sees them. :-) Brant (2:16:22 PM): If he's reading it all, which I assume he is, lo. Brant (2:16:40 PM): *lol Kenya (2:24:35 PM): so I think I can easily convince deet that I trust him Kenya (2:24:36 PM): lol Kenya (2:26:43 PM): we'll see of course Kenya (2:26:58 PM): but I mean we played that last TC so well Kenya (2:27:07 PM): that we could have voted out Pete if we wanted Kenya (2:27:08 PM): lol Brant (2:28:24 PM): Er, Pete and Deetster have a connection? Brant (2:28:35 PM): Oh, nm Kenya (2:28:38 PM): lol Kenya (2:28:50 PM): well was deet in the second game too? Brant (2:28:53 PM): I was looking away, so those messages and thought they were combined Brant (2:28:58 PM): *saw Kenya (2:29:08 PM): cuz pete was the host right? and you said pete wanted out deet right? lol Brant (2:29:27 PM): Yeah, I think Deetster was Jacob in it. Brant (2:29:29 PM): OPS2. Brant (2:29:38 PM): And Pete keeps mentioning Deetster as the leader of the other tribe Brant (2:29:55 PM): I think on the board even. And mentioned that getting Deetster out should be our #1 goal once we merged. Kenya (2:30:14 PM): deet isn't the leader though Kenya (2:30:19 PM): I think he might have left Kenya (2:30:22 PM): if they went to tc instead of us Brant (2:30:44 PM): Has he said anything else about anyone else? I haven't heard a thing about them. Kenya (2:31:06 PM): I'm gonna make him tell me what's going on.. no worries LOL Brant (2:31:17 PM): Not to say he's lying, but I've seen him use the "I don't like my tribe" in other games to me, lol. Brant (2:31:38 PM): Oh, Cam was in OPS2. Kenya (2:31:39 PM): well I know he likes our tribe though lol Brant (2:31:43 PM): Yay :-) Brant (2:31:57 PM): I don't know who Cam was, but he mentioned it to me before. Kenya (2:32:05 PM): gotcha Kenya (2:32:15 PM): yeah cam is probably the weak link in our alliance lol Kenya (2:32:21 PM): only cuz I"m not taking chances again lol Brant (2:32:45 PM): And I'm fine with that. I've talked and bonded a lot with him, but priority-wise, you and Bryan are higher. Kenya (2:32:56 PM): :-) Brant (2:33:07 PM): I really, really need to talk to Bryan more. Brant (2:33:16 PM): It's just hard because when he signs on AIM, he's off in minutes Kenya (2:33:21 PM): he's just not on as much is all lol Kenya (2:33:37 PM): i talked last night to bryan for a bit Brant (2:33:42 PM): Like yesterday I saw him sign on and thought I'd IM him in a few minutes so I didn't bombard him immediately...and he was gone when I went to message him Brant (2:33:52 PM): Oh, nice Brant (2:35:11 PM): He seems pretty laid-back with thoughts similar to my own. For the most part, I think our whole group does. Brant (2:35:45 PM): Which I think I've said before, but we're working really well right now as long as we have these same tribes. Kenya (2:36:21 PM): yeah I don't want to switch tribes Kenya (2:36:26 PM): I'm freaking out about that possibility lol Brant (2:36:44 PM): Yeah, I don't like that at all with 3-3 numbers Brant (2:36:50 PM): If we do it this round Brant (2:37:28 PM): We should blame Bryan for not finding something useful in the Glass Elevator and giving us an advantage. :-P Kenya (2:38:05 PM): lol Kenya (2:43:41 PM): I just hope our alliance can go far Brant (2:44:38 PM): Me, too. I'm in it for the alliance, and I get the feeling we're either going to get close to the end or be picked off right after we swap. Brant (2:44:57 PM): Like either make final 4 or end up 8th - 12th. Brant (2:45:33 PM): At least that's what I'm thinking. I think out of everyone in the tribe, Cam and I will be in the most danger if we swap since we've done the most in the challenges. Kenya (2:45:49 PM): lol Kenya (2:45:52 PM): yeah but cory hates me Kenya (2:45:55 PM): so he'll want me out Kenya (2:46:12 PM): although I'm gonna try to suck up to him Kenya (2:46:21 PM): and be like lets put our differences aside blah blah blah LMAO Brant (2:46:28 PM): lol Brant (2:46:37 PM): Hopefully that doesn't become an issue Kenya (2:47:16 PM): oh it will be one for sure Kenya (2:47:19 PM): we can't stand each other at all Brant (2:49:23 PM): Then maybe we should take him out first if we swap/merge Brant (2:49:51 PM): I'm just concerned that Travis might not like that since the two of them were bonding early in the game. :-\ Brant (2:50:02 PM): Hopefully we can figure it out Kenya (2:50:42 PM): yeah cory will talk smack about me to people Kenya (2:50:43 PM): I know he will Kenya (2:50:48 PM): lol Kenya (2:58:48 PM): lol someday maybe.. haha anyway I gotta go, boyfriends here, going to his house than to movie later Kenya (2:58:51 PM): talk to you later!! :-) Brant (2:59:01 PM): Bye! Kenya signed off at 2:59:15 PM
Thoughts on Chat Kenya and I just had a good, long conversation. It's the longest one of our conversations has lasted in years. What's fascinating is that she wants to work with Deetster while I think Deetster should be targeted and discussed targeting him first with Pete, who might actually show some loyalty to Deetster based on him, Sarah, and Pete saving each other before we had tribes. Deetster. Deetster. Deetster. I need to be careful and more consistent while saying things about him because any of it could get to him and if he hears I'm targeting him, he will send me home. My tribe can vote out Travis if we stick together and lose again. Kenya is DOWN WITH THAT. Thank you. | |
| | | Brant Winner
Posts : 2796 Join date : 2009-09-07 Location : Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Round 06 Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:38 pm | |
| Chat with Bryan Brant (9:38:29 PM): Hey Bryan! Bryan (9:39:07 PM): Hey Brant! How's it goin? Brant (9:40:03 PM): Not bad. Kinda tired and it's really early, but oh wel. Brant (9:40:06 PM): You? Bryan (9:40:39 PM): Where are you from? i'm pretty good, probably gonna hang out w/ my family in a bit Brant (9:41:01 PM): I am from Pennsylvania. USA. East Coast. You? Bryan (9:41:26 PM): Oh ok, i'm from indiana. i thought you meant it was early morning Brant (9:42:01 PM): Ohh, no, lol. I guess we're either in the same time zones or not far apart. Just early at night Bryan (9:42:26 PM): yup, I'm in est Bryan (9:42:29 PM): :-) Brant (9:42:42 PM): Yay for having the same time zone :-) Brant (9:42:43 PM): lol Brant (9:43:18 PM): Plus our names are super-close, lol. So many coincidences. :-P Bryan (9:43:51 PM): lol yeah, how's your weekend goin? Brant (9:45:17 PM): Today's basically been boring and I haven't done much. Tomorrow, I'll probably be going out with friends in the afternoon but should barely make it back for the challenge time. So that should be fun. Brant (9:45:28 PM): Yours? Bryan (9:46:34 PM): Pretty good, i had to finish a challenge today. tomorrow I'm having an eye appt. and going back to my college town :-) Brant (9:47:25 PM): That sounds fun. :-) The college town part, not the eye appointment, ol. Brant (9:47:35 PM): *lol. Brant (9:47:44 PM): I keep missing letters. -_- Bryan (9:48:10 PM): lol eye appt. doesn't bother me so much cause i get new contacts Brant (9:49:16 PM): Oh, that's cool. I wear glasses and usually hate the eye drops and other tests. I'm dizzy for hours afterwards. :-\ Brant (9:49:25 PM): And can hardly see Bryan (9:49:28 PM): ugh that does suck sometimes Brant (9:50:18 PM): Yeah. :-\ Will you be around for the challenge thing? I looked at it and am still not really sure what's it going to be. Bryan (9:50:39 PM): I will be back by 10 for sure Brant (9:51:02 PM): Yay! My best guess is that we're working with someone from the other tribe, and one pair will win immunity with both tribes going to TC and one person from both tribe immune. Brant (9:51:06 PM): But idk, it could be anything Bryan (9:51:29 PM): that sounds interesting actually Brant (9:52:24 PM): Yeah. I kinda half-hope I'm right just to get right to final 10, lol. Even though going to TC again would suck. Bryan (9:52:51 PM): yeh it would. I think Pete trusts us Brant (9:53:30 PM): Right. I've talked to him a few times around the last challenges and he seems to genuinely want to work with us and stick together. Bryan (9:53:49 PM): That's awesome :-) Brant (9:54:01 PM): I'm not quite as confident about Travis. :-\ Bryan (9:54:17 PM): Me neither Bryan (9:54:39 PM): But I'd still want all 6 of us around Brant (9:55:41 PM): Yeah, if we can avoid TC, I'd want to do that. I get the feeling Travis may play both sides PLUS he seemed to bond a lot with Cory pre-game so that concerns me. Bryan (9:55:58 PM): eww Brant (9:56:17 PM): I think I've actually talked to everyone on the tribe now and they've expressed concerns about Travis. Even Pete, lol. Bryan (9:56:42 PM): haha, well we should try to find out who's on the outs on hornswoggler Brant (9:57:27 PM): Yeah, definitely. I haven't done any cross-tribe chat, so I don't know anything about them. Bryan (9:57:44 PM): me neither Brant (9:57:52 PM): Plus the only person over there I even recognize is Deetster, lol, and we only talk if we're in the same game. Brant (9:58:03 PM): I played his Cops & Robbers game last winter. Brant (9:58:25 PM): But no bonds or knowledge of anyone else. Brant (9:59:21 PM): If we can work with him, great. If we don't trust him and want to send him home after merge, I'm fine with that, too. Whatever's best for us. Bryan (10:00:09 PM): Yeah, i think Cam knows him pretty well also Brant (10:01:00 PM): I guess that could be good or bad. Hmm. Brant (10:01:29 PM): I really want to see OPS2 episodes since they were both in that to see how it turned out. I think Pete said the finale's next week. Bryan (10:03:00 PM): Awesome! i haven't been keeping up though Brant (10:03:20 PM): I think they're at final 8 now or something and the finale is going to be live and open to ORG Planet. Brant (10:03:28 PM): In an AIM Chat? idk Bryan (10:03:53 PM): oh weird lol Brant (10:04:15 PM): Yeah, lol. I think I'll go to to see how it turns out. Brant (10:04:31 PM): Oh yeah, I was wondering Brant (10:04:58 PM): You said your trip to the Glass Elevator was a bust in your TC answers? Brant (10:05:12 PM): If you don't want to say or aren't allowed to reveal what it was, that's fine. Bryan (10:05:49 PM): yeah, you get to pick a room to go to. the room i picked already had the prize claimed Bryan (10:06:01 PM): So someone on Horn can jump tribes whenever they want Brant (10:06:17 PM): Oh, that's not too dangerous Brant (10:06:24 PM): But sucks you didn't get anything :-\ Brant (10:06:35 PM): There's no puzzle or challenge? You just pick a room? Bryan (10:06:36 PM): yeah, i wanted it in case I got screwed in a switch Bryan (10:06:47 PM): you have to do something to get the prize Brant (10:07:23 PM): Ah, yeah. I thought there might be posting involved or something. Brant (10:07:39 PM): I randomly clicked the daily posts thing and saw Ben had 60 posts the day he went Bryan (10:07:54 PM): yeah it was i think posting a certainsentence with at least 5 minutes between each one Brant (10:09:13 PM): Right. Well, thank you for sharing. :-) It's good to know what we're up against over there. Brant (10:09:28 PM): I wonder if whatever Ben found was put back when he was ousted? Bryan (10:09:58 PM): No prob. And i would guess so. he didn't pick the Television room then Brant (10:10:18 PM): Television's the one you had? Bryan (10:10:38 PM): yeah Brant (10:11:35 PM): Right. Well that means only Kyle has something now. So that's not bad Brant (10:11:52 PM): I was concerned we might be up against two hidden idols or something Brant (10:12:21 PM): Which would suck majorly if we're only 6-6 majority Bryan (10:12:27 PM): yup
Thoughts on Chat I feel like the way I approach him, he probably perceives me as that creepy person who IM's someone for information and stops talking to him when he gets it. But at least I got it. | |
| | | Brant Winner
Posts : 2796 Join date : 2009-09-07 Location : Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Round 06 Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:32 pm | |
| K so I'm working with random, good-at-challenge alias lady. I think we'll do well together if she gets online and wants to win. | |
| | | Brant Winner
Posts : 2796 Join date : 2009-09-07 Location : Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Round 06 Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:57 pm | |
| Violet probably can't make the start or get on AIM, so I doubt we can win. I guess we'll find out. | |
| | | Brant Winner
Posts : 2796 Join date : 2009-09-07 Location : Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Round 06 Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:29 pm | |
| Oh, hahahahaha, I guess I'm not working with Violet after all. Wow, so much is happening. I need to sift through everything and figure out what's going on before my next post. | |
| | | Brant Winner
Posts : 2796 Join date : 2009-09-07 Location : Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Round 06 Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:12 pm | |
| Chat with Bryan Bryan (9:56:19 PM): hey I'm here, just invis Brant (9:56:27 PM): Oh, awesome! Brant (9:56:52 PM): I'm posting in one-minute. Have you looked at the instructions. If possible, wait for after mine so we don't both post at the same time and have to delete Bryan (9:57:02 PM): i haven't looked Brant (9:57:44 PM): All right. Your help will be great because we can work together with 1 person winning immunity and 1 going to the glass elevator Brant (9:57:50 PM): It's just me against Alex right now Bryan (9:57:52 PM): sweet Bryan (9:58:48 PM): ugh I'm so mad we're swapped Brant (9:58:52 PM): So right now, the issue is Alex is about 6 minutes behind me. :-\ Brant (9:58:58 PM): Yeah, wel Kyle has 3 past-votes! Brant (9:59:02 PM): So we can use that to break a tie Bryan (9:59:04 PM): ok sweet! Bryan (9:59:11 PM): and we didn't get travis yay Brant (9:59:20 PM): Haha, yeah Brant (9:59:30 PM): Cam and Kenya have to deal with him and Cory. Brant (10:00:14 PM): I'm debating about this challenge...should we war against Alex? Brant (10:00:26 PM): Because if Violet or Kyle signs on, he could win it all. Bryan (10:00:42 PM): ok then we probably should Brant (10:01:00 PM): Right now, I have 4/6 Brant (10:01:14 PM): In theory, I can win this all at 10:17 Brant (10:01:17 PM): *10:37 Bryan (10:01:28 PM): ok I'll go post in a minute Brant (10:01:43 PM): All right, if you have any questions about what we're doing, let me know. Bryan (10:01:48 PM): ok Brant (10:02:03 PM): Just gotta either keep Alex from getting = signs or steal hers away, preferably. Brant (10:02:12 PM): *his Brant (10:04:02 PM): ORRR if you steal Violet's = sign, then Violet can't help Alex. That would be interesting... Bryan (10:04:10 PM): oooh i stole her O Bryan (10:04:18 PM): damn Brant (10:04:31 PM): It's fine Brant (10:04:36 PM): It's good because if they war against me Brant (10:04:41 PM): You'll have a shot at winning it, too :-) Bryan (10:04:43 PM): yay Bryan (10:05:02 PM): I'll give Pete my equal sign for his O next Bryan (10:05:21 PM): or my + Brant (10:05:36 PM): Yeah, that's good Brant (10:05:55 PM): Alex posted about 10 mistakes, so Doug and I have been going somewhat crazy trying to figure out the actual lists Brant (10:05:57 PM): lol Bryan (10:06:02 PM): lol Bryan (10:06:07 PM): he's an idiot Bryan (10:06:13 PM): he messed up the taffy pull Brant (10:07:13 PM): Yeah, I remember that Brant (10:07:31 PM): My only big fear here is that at 10:26, Alex can steal his 5th Brant (10:07:43 PM): So IF Violet would happen to get on, it could be over. Brant (10:07:59 PM): Violet PMed me earlier saying she'd be a little late. Bryan (10:08:00 PM): I can keep trading with alex so you get immunity Bryan (10:08:08 PM): he just took my = Brant (10:08:22 PM): Are you okay letting me have it? Bryan (10:08:25 PM): yeah Brant (10:08:30 PM): I'd agree to send you to the Glass Elevator again Brant (10:08:34 PM): If you wanted Bryan (10:08:35 PM): sweet Brant (10:08:45 PM): I can easily justify it to Pete since Brant (10:08:51 PM): you helped me win and were online Bryan (10:08:56 PM): yeah lol Bryan signed on at 10:09:16 PM Brant (10:15:38 PM): It's going to be a mess if Alex steals from me after you steal from him. Bryan (10:16:02 PM): it will be, but that'd be the smartest thing for him to do lol Brant (10:16:11 PM): Yeah, I still think it's safest for us. Brant (10:16:23 PM): Since Kyle or Violet could jump on any time and we'd be in a bad situation for the vote. Bryan (10:16:33 PM): yup Brant (10:16:41 PM): Especially with a glass elevator prize in their hands Bryan (10:17:13 PM): well the only one i know someone has is switching to the other tribe at any time, so that would help US and hurt Cam/Kenya :-\ Bryan (10:17:27 PM): unless one of their people jumped to our tribe Bryan (10:17:28 PM): oooh Bryan (10:17:33 PM): that would really blow Brant (10:17:43 PM): Yeahh Brant (10:17:48 PM): Well only Kyle could have it Brant (10:17:54 PM): Since Ben was ousted Bryan (10:17:55 PM): oh ok Bryan (10:17:59 PM): nobody else went? Brant (10:18:02 PM): No one else went Bryan (10:18:03 PM): oh Bryan (10:18:11 PM): whoever went before me went to the music room Bryan (10:18:20 PM): it tells you where the last went Brant (10:18:20 PM): Ben. Bryan (10:18:27 PM): ok then we're good Brant (10:19:38 PM): Yep Brant (10:19:40 PM): There's so much here Brant (10:19:48 PM): If you look at their board and past TC's Brant (10:19:58 PM): But for now I'm working on the challenge, lol. So much to read later Bryan (10:20:58 PM): wow, i'm surprised we can see past tc's Brant (10:20:58 PM): And now it's good because if we go, we'll know what rooms are good to go to and they might not have that information. Brant (10:21:12 PM): Yeah omg, it's crazy Brant (10:21:18 PM): Cory has 1 past-vote, Kyle has 3 Brant (10:21:34 PM): Since they break ties, it's good to know in the future Bryan (10:22:14 PM): yeah for sure Brant (10:22:40 PM): I hope Alex just gets off, lol, to make this easier for us. Brant (10:22:49 PM): Since you guys are both about to post again Bryan (10:23:00 PM): haha i doubt he will Bryan (10:26:08 PM): yay i stole an = Brant (10:26:19 PM): Aw, thanks Brant (10:26:20 PM): :-) Brant (10:26:52 PM): Now Alex may not realize you posted, mess up, and I can win it :-) Brant (10:27:30 PM): Hopefully our tribe wins it over there and sends someone to the glass elevator. Bryan (10:27:41 PM): i hope so too! Brant (10:27:44 PM): And we come out of this 6-4. :-) Brant (10:27:54 PM): With prizes in our hands Brant (10:27:55 PM): lol Bryan (10:27:56 PM): ooh, he noticed Bryan (10:27:57 PM): lol Brant (10:28:10 PM): k yeah, I see Bryan (10:28:35 PM): I don't trust people with no avatars! Brant (10:29:25 PM): rofl Brant (10:29:31 PM): And we got the cakes against him Bryan (10:29:42 PM): haha i didn't even notice! Bryan (10:29:52 PM): pete needs to change his now Brant (10:30:09 PM): Pete?! Brant (10:30:12 PM): Oh Brant (10:30:12 PM): lol Bryan (10:30:15 PM): haha Brant (10:30:15 PM): I thought you meant his post Brant (10:30:20 PM): rofl, yeah, his avatar Brant (10:31:14 PM): I'm trying to figure out how to do this and make it work... Brant (10:31:45 PM): What if you take Violet's next X and then give it to me the next turn? Or would that not work? Bryan (10:31:56 PM): that would work Bryan (10:32:07 PM): it wouldn't be one of those weird trades Brant (10:32:24 PM): Right, so if I go to 5, then back to 4, me and you can go before Alex and I can get 6. Brant (10:32:28 PM): If no one else gets on. Bryan (10:32:37 PM): yup Brant (10:37:36 PM): I've got Alex by 10 minutes and he's losing some time, so hopefully if this drags out, I can make up the 10 minute and catch him Brant (10:37:42 PM): But in theory, we can end it really soon :-) Brant (10:38:06 PM): This would be a mess with all 6 people. I'm glad we only have 3. Bryan (10:38:13 PM): yeah me too lol Bryan (10:38:17 PM): it would never end with 6 Brant (10:40:05 PM): Yeah it would be a mess with the least threat winning when everyone else wars...or something Brant (10:40:10 PM): And so many mistakes Bryan (10:40:43 PM): oh definitely Brant (10:44:45 PM): Yay for posting time again. I hate to be a nag, but it's really important you beat Alex by posting on your minute with this next one. Brant (10:44:46 PM): lol Bryan (10:44:58 PM): lol yeah it is Bryan (10:46:02 PM): yay i have the x Brant (10:46:12 PM): *prays that nothing crazy happens* Bryan (10:46:34 PM): idk what he could do to prevent this Brant (10:46:54 PM): He can't do anything unless Violet or Kyle gets on. Brant (10:47:27 PM): He just stole from me again Brant (10:47:41 PM): So yay Bryan (10:48:04 PM): yay you're gonna win Bryan (10:49:25 PM): he should've given you the O Bryan (10:49:44 PM): just in case we tried to do the bad trade Brant (10:50:29 PM): lol, yeah Bryan (10:51:05 PM): eh nvm that woulda been dumb lol Brant (10:51:19 PM): I thought you were commenting on what would've been stupid of him to do to help us Brant (10:51:20 PM): lol Brant (10:51:31 PM): We could do an epic O X trade Brant (10:51:51 PM): ...had he done that Bryan (10:51:59 PM): yup :-) Brant (10:57:41 PM): *takes a deep breath* Brant (10:57:43 PM): 8 minutes Bryan (10:57:47 PM): lolz Brant (10:58:08 PM): It's still nerve-wracking. Just that this is the probably the most important challenge of the game. Brant (10:58:17 PM): Followed by the most important TC Bryan (10:58:24 PM): yeah Brant (10:58:37 PM): But we have it won 3-3 since Kyle has past-votes and if Kyle leaves, we'll send Violet or Alex home 3-2. Bryan (10:58:58 PM): yeah, that would be great for us Brant (10:59:09 PM): Just who knows what's happening over there Brant (10:59:10 PM): :-\ Bryan (10:59:12 PM): idk if he'd do that to them though Brant (10:59:39 PM): Kyle's 3 past-votes vs Pete's 1. We have it... Brant (10:59:50 PM): Unless Kye threatens Pete saying he has an idol or some lie. Bryan (10:59:56 PM): eww Brant (11:00:01 PM): Which we know is false, but Pete doesn't Bryan (11:00:04 PM): I'd have to tell pete about the elevator Brant (11:00:20 PM): Yeah Brant (11:00:46 PM): We'l see how it goes Brant (11:00:50 PM): I'm sure my l key isn't work right Brant (11:00:58 PM): Since half my l-words are missing letters, lol Brant (11:01:08 PM): I keep going ol or o rather than lol Bryan (11:01:39 PM): haha Bryan (11:01:52 PM): my shift key sucked on the home computer Brant (11:02:04 PM): that would suck for capitalization Brant (11:02:31 PM): The good thing is Violet told me in a PM she was at a retreat this weekend and couldn't use AIM Brant (11:02:50 PM): So now in the next 3 minutes, she'll have no way of reading it all and figuring out what to do Brant (11:02:56 PM): If she got on Bryan (11:03:05 PM): sweeet Brant (11:06:05 PM): Yay, no signs :-) Brant (11:06:14 PM): And time is here, lol Bryan (11:06:19 PM): done! Brant (11:06:21 PM): You're awesome :-) Bryan (11:06:31 PM): No problemo, muchacho! Brant (11:06:35 PM): :-D Brant (11:07:57 PM): Had I been smart, I'd have done this with not taking from you originally so that you wouldn't have to steal and could just give me yours Brant (11:08:19 PM): But whatever, it's all good and we'll be safe this round and hopefully in good position later in the game Bryan (11:08:28 PM): yeah definitely :-) Bryan (11:09:31 PM): it's good our votes were unanimous Bryan (11:09:38 PM): they can't gain any info from it Brant (11:09:56 PM): Yeah, I know. I can't believe Deetster posted that huge IM convo Brant (11:10:00 PM): And they had close votes Bryan (11:10:05 PM): yeah ridic Brant (11:12:36 PM): Are you allowed multiple glass elevator prizes? Bryan (11:12:42 PM): Idk Bryan (11:12:50 PM): probably Brant (11:13:09 PM): Yeah, if there was a rule against it, they'd know I talked to you and you didn't find one. Brant (11:13:25 PM): But whatever. It makes sense for me to send you. Bryan (11:13:38 PM): yup, totally justified Brant (11:13:50 PM): I'll post sending you now. Bryan (11:14:05 PM): yaaaay! Brant (11:15:20 PM): :-D Brant (11:15:33 PM): I'll IM Alex to see what he says about life. Bryan (11:15:40 PM): hahah Brant (11:17:04 PM): lol, apparently Alex couldn't figure out how to IM us Bryan (11:17:12 PM): hahaha Bryan (11:17:19 PM): then whyyy do you have aim, boy Bryan (11:33:54 PM): Well I've gotta go! Bryan (11:33:57 PM): I'll cya later! Brant (11:34:10 PM): Alright, my convo with Alex is going NOWHERE, lol. Long gaps. But ttyl, thanks for the help! Brant (11:34:26 PM): Have a good on Brant (11:34:27 PM): e Bryan (11:34:38 PM): haha good luck
PM to Pete Hey Pete!
Bryan signed on after me and helped me win the challenge, so that's why I sent him to the Glass Elevator. I am completely, 100% still into having me, you, and Bryan stick together here. I'm looking at the past-votes since we can see their tribal councils and see that Kyle has 3 past votes, so if we have a 3-3 tie, we can send them home. Plus I don't know what Bryan's doing in the Glass Elevator but maybe he can find something to help us.
I chatted with Alex just to feel the waters, but he didn't give me much at all. He just acknowledged that it was probably going to be a tie at the vote and I shrugged and said "Maybe, but you never know." There's so much to go through here, but maybe we can figure out a lead to split them so we don't even have to deal with a tie.
Talk to you later, Brant
Chat with Alex Brant (11:16:14 PM): Hey Alex Alex (11:16:25 PM): Hey Brant Alex (11:16:41 PM): was trying to find out how to contact you guys Brant (11:17:42 PM): Hey, no problem. Sorry about the challenge. I just wanted to win since this round is mad chaos. Alex (11:18:15 PM): LOL you dont be sorry, I was messing you up Brant (11:18:58 PM): Haha, it's all good. I wish the whole tribe could have talked to one another before started Brant (11:19:08 PM): So much happened in such a short period of time Alex (11:29:32 PM): OH YEAH Alex (11:29:41 PM): quite a curveball Wonka threw Alex (11:30:56 PM): we can exchange AIMs, I telly ou Violet's and Kyle you tell me Bryan's and Pete so we can all communicate Brant (11:31:19 PM): Sounds like a plan Alex (11:31:33 PM): Violet is chewchamp108 Alex (11:31:40 PM): and Kyle is geometrix18 Brant (11:31:50 PM): Bryan is bryguy128, Pete is castleoblivion20 Brant (11:32:47 PM): I'm not sure where Pete is tonight. Hardly anyone showed up for that challenge. :-\ Brant (11:33:56 PM): So what do you think of this game so far? I love the chocolate theme, haha. Alex (11:34:15 PM): LOL yeah the Candy theme is great Alex (11:36:34 PM): how are Pete and Bryan? Brant (11:37:03 PM): I like them both. They're cool, a little quiet though. Brant (11:37:19 PM): Our tribe in general was quiet. Not a lot going on. Alex (11:37:31 PM): same here Brant (11:37:48 PM): We just had two votes that were unanimous, no splits or chaos or anything. Brant (11:38:04 PM): Sarah never even posted Alex (11:38:28 PM): lol,,, same with harvey Brant (11:38:58 PM): Glad to see the inactives go early :-) Alex (11:39:10 PM): thats the way it should be Brant (11:40:22 PM): Yep, and Jonathan didn't talk to a lot of people and no one knew where his head was. Brant (11:40:39 PM): So that's why we sent him home. Alex (11:40:52 PM): sounds like good decisions Alex (11:41:22 PM): our tribe was a little mor einteresting since Kyle was introduced after Harvey Brant (11:41:38 PM): Oh yeah, you had 3 votes Brant (11:41:49 PM): I was thinking it was just 2 gone from each tribe Brant (11:42:01 PM): Forgot about that twist Brant (11:42:30 PM): We were super shocked that Ben went home since he was a HUGE threat in that one competition Alex (11:42:47 PM): OMG Alex (11:42:53 PM): Ben went on Vacation Brant (11:43:06 PM): lol, in the middle of the game? Alex (11:43:21 PM): https://orgplanet.forumotion.com/hornswoggler-suite-f74/important-for-the-hornwoggler-tribe-t3348.htm Brant (11:43:22 PM): That makes sense that you voted him out then Alex (11:43:27 PM): yeah he made a thread about it Alex (11:43:33 PM): we had to vote him out :-( Brant (11:43:42 PM): June 21st to July 18th?! Brant (11:43:50 PM): Wtf, why did he even sign up, wow Brant (11:43:51 PM): lol Alex (11:44:07 PM): he says he didnt know it would happen lol Brant (11:44:17 PM): Yeah, that makes sense Brant (11:44:22 PM): But sucks nonetheless Alex (11:44:35 PM): what sucks even more for Ben Alex (11:45:13 PM): he never would have went Brant (11:45:30 PM): :-( Brant (11:45:46 PM): That's too bad. He could've been a huge player in this. Brant (11:48:02 PM): Maybe there will be an outcast twist later or something. I doubt it, though. That wouldn't be fair to have one around the time he comes back. Brant (11:48:34 PM): If we send 2 people home this round, we're down to 10! Craziness Alex (11:50:13 PM): lol yeah Alex (11:50:20 PM): and the tribes are now 3 from each Alex (11:50:34 PM): ties are very likely now Brant (11:50:58 PM): Yeah, I don't have a CLUE what's going to happen or how we can get through this without tieing. Brant (11:51:32 PM): But maybe something will come up? Idk, I haven't seen a lot of games where one tribe just eliminates the other Brant (11:51:38 PM): So maybe something will change Brant (12:06:25 AM): I have to go now, I'll catch you around some other time. Brant (12:06:26 AM): Nice meeting you and ttyl. :-) Alex (12:06:32 AM): k Alex (12:06:36 AM): ttyl
Thoughts Wow, I can't believe we have new tribes. So I guess that it's me, Bryan, and Pete from Snozzwanger paired with Alex, Kyle, and Violet from Hornswoggler forming the new Hornswoggler Tribe. Cam, Kenya, and Travis join Cory, Deetster, and Sadie over at the new Snozzwanger. It's total madness.
Fortunately, Bryan and I won the challenge so I'm not vulnerable and Bryan gets another shot at the prize. It was easy since we were just up against Alex who kept screwing it up. I feel like sending Bryan to the Glass Elevator is completely justified in him helping me and I told that to Pete. I looked at the past tribal councils from Hornswoggler and Kyle has 3 past-votes. So we can send him home in a tie and he'll leave with the most. If Kyle leaves our tribe, then we'll just send Alex or Violet home. I think everything's good here. That just leaves a question of what could be happening over at Snozzwanger where I hope Cam and Kenya (and maybe Travis a little) can survive. I'm sure they have it a lot worse than me, Bryan, and Pete.
Tomorrow will be fun. | |
| | | Brant Winner
Posts : 2796 Join date : 2009-09-07 Location : Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Round 06 Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:33 pm | |
| PM from Pete hey Brant,
congrats on winning individual immunity. What is the vote going to be now that Kyle has left? Have you talked to Bryan about this vote? I guess since Kyle left we can just take out Violet or Alex. We'll make it work but it might be in our best interest to throw the next immunity next round to keep the other tribe from going to TC to keep Cam, Travis and Kenya safe since with Kyle they have the majority over them. thanks for the message, we'll get through to the merge for sure :D
Chat with Pete Brant (8:44:15 PM): Hey Pete Pete (8:44:24 PM): hey Brant Brant (8:44:30 PM): How's it going? Pete (8:45:03 PM): its going good, you? Brant (8:45:20 PM): Same, it's going pretty good. Brant (8:45:51 PM): I'm glad I could catch you and Bryan online so we can figure out something with the vote. Brant (8:45:59 PM): Any thoughts or ideas right now? Brant (8:48:28 PM): I mean it's just between 2 people so it's not a big deal, just want to make sure we're all together Pete (8:49:34 PM): well Bryan figured we should go for Violet cause she is so well liked Brant (8:50:09 PM): Yeah, I'm fine with that. She's a lot better at the challenges, too. Alex kept messing up yesterday Pete (8:50:35 PM): alright then I will vote for her Brant (8:50:53 PM): It kinda sucks for her because she looks like a good player with a lot of potential, and now she's not going to make jury. Apparently she's away for the weekend. Pete (8:51:21 PM): yeah I agree Brant (8:51:52 PM): But that kind of stuff happens in these games. I'll vote for her if you two will and I'll make a boot list with her #1 and Alex #2. Pete (8:52:13 PM): alright, sounds good to me Pete (8:52:49 PM): I was thinking if we don't merge next we should throw the challenge to take Alex out next, to keep Cam, Travis and Kenya (or who survives this TC) safe Brant (8:53:54 PM): I agree. We can assure we have a majority at merge that way Brant (8:54:02 PM): I get the feeling we'll merge at final 9 Pete (8:56:57 PM): yeah me too
Chat with Bryan Brant (8:44:19 PM): Hey Bryan Bryan (8:45:27 PM): Hey Brant! How are you? Brant (8:46:30 PM): I'm doing good, just got home, and saw that Kyle used his Pop. Brant (8:46:33 PM): You? Bryan (8:47:09 PM): I'm ok just hungover Bryan (8:47:21 PM): lol I wasn't surprised he used it Brant (8:49:37 PM): lol, yeah. It saves him from being voted out over here so it's a good short-term idea Bryan (8:49:55 PM): yup lol Bryan (8:50:07 PM): it totally screwed over alex and violet haha Bryan (8:50:15 PM): I bet they hate him so much right now Brant (8:52:37 PM): Yeah, I bet so. Pete mentioned throwing the next challenge to help our Snozzwanger pals. Brant (8:52:52 PM): He also said you discussed Violet as the first target. I'm fine with that. Bryan (8:53:12 PM): Yup, I'm just pretty sure everyone loves her Brant (8:53:34 PM): It really sucks for her to be taken out this way. But it's a game, lol, and Kyle's hugely responsible Brant (8:53:36 PM): lol Bryan (8:54:05 PM): I know haha, I wrote in my confessional I feel so bad for thos e2 Brant (8:54:20 PM): lol Brant (8:54:43 PM): Kyle seems to be like that. I was looking over his conversation with Deetster on the board Brant (8:54:48 PM): He's all in it for himself. Bryan (8:55:33 PM): Yeah, definitely not ever trusting him Bryan (8:55:43 PM): I don't see why his old tribemates would either Brant (8:56:16 PM): Right, it would be hilarious if he's voted out over there this round now Bryan (8:56:22 PM): hahaha Bryan (8:56:38 PM): I'd love that Brant (8:56:55 PM): It would be epic. Such a waste of a good pop :-D Brant (8:57:43 PM): Anything interesting happen in the Glass Elevator? Brant (8:59:01 PM): I'm gonna make a boot list with Violet #1 and Alex #2 just in case something crazy happens. Like if Ben's prize somehow got passed on to someone else. Bryan (8:59:23 PM): oooh that would be weird Bryan (8:59:37 PM): Glass elevator, I'm trying to get a pop right now Bryan (9:00:08 PM): The person on the other tribe chose the same room as me, but first so I had to pick a different one Brant (9:00:22 PM): Oh, do you know who it was? Bryan (9:00:35 PM): nope Brant (9:00:56 PM): I fear the worst for them with Kyle there now Brant (9:01:18 PM): But if we throw the next challenge or whatever and we don't merge, we'll still be up with a 5-4 majority if we merge at 9 Bryan (9:01:22 PM): Yeah Bryan (9:01:34 PM): Hopefully Deet works with Cam and Kenya Brant (9:01:55 PM): Yeah, that would be perfect. ORG Planet regulars FTW. Bryan (9:02:10 PM): haha yaaay! Bryan (9:13:36 PM): i've gotta go! I'll cya later man! Brant (9:13:48 PM): Bye!
Thoughts Kyle really did leave us, wow. That may suck for Cam, Kenya, and Travis, but it should make this round go smoothly with me, Bryan, and Pete. Everything that Pete approached me saying, I was already thinking. We send Violet home (it sucks so much for her and I feel horrible because she could've won this game) and then throw the next challenge and send Alex home if tribes stay the same. Then we're merge with at least a 5-4 majority and can command the rest of the game. Theoretically. Only glass elevator prizes could stop us. I'm not going to let myself get too overconfident, but if things go well the next round or two, then there's a very good chance my alliance will succeed and I can go to finals. I'm positioned (IMO) really well in the core of this tribe, and I think that I can make it work. After some epic failures in the final two of other games and a few close successes, I also feel like I know how to approach final tribal councils so that I can win them. But for now, I just need to get through the next few rounds because I could end up getting screwed over in another twist like Violet is this round. | |
| | | Brant Winner
Posts : 2796 Join date : 2009-09-07 Location : Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Round 06 Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:13 am | |
| Okay, so why are Alex and Violet making absolutely no attempt to even discuss this vote with me, Bryan, and Pete? Did Ben's glass elevator prize get passed on or something? Have they given up? Their lack of conversation attempt makes me more concerned than anything.
So please don't blindside us with something this tribal council. Kthxbai. | |
| | | Brant Winner
Posts : 2796 Join date : 2009-09-07 Location : Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Round 06 Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:59 am | |
| Round the world and home again That's the sailor's way Faster faster, faster faster
There's no earthly way of knowing Which direction we are going There's no knowing where we're rowing Or which way the river's flowing
Is it raining, is it snowing Is a hurricane a-blowing
Not a speck of light is showing So the danger must be growing Are the fires of Hell a-glowing Is the grisly reaper mowing
Yes, the danger must be growing For the rowers keep on rowing And they're certainly not showing Any signs that they are slowing | |
| | | Doug Shooting Star
Posts : 5467 Join date : 2009-09-05 Age : 35 Location : http://twitter.com/OrgPlanetORGs
| | | | Brant Winner
Posts : 2796 Join date : 2009-09-07 Location : Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Round 06 Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:25 pm | |
| I posted that song because all of a sudden, there's a dangerous vibe. I get the feeling that something bad might be in the works, but I hope it's not true. I'll be on AIM all day taking classes so I can see if anyone fills me in on new details. | |
| | | Brant Winner
Posts : 2796 Join date : 2009-09-07 Location : Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Round 06 Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:01 pm | |
| https://2img.net/h/oi46.tinypic.com/2zgbyti.jpg
Is it sad that Alex sent me that and my first thought was "Ohh, you have Windows 7 and 1,440px × 900 screen resolution?"
This is bad, though. Maybbbee. Unless they're all just warring to see who gets the past-votes. | |
| | | Brant Winner
Posts : 2796 Join date : 2009-09-07 Location : Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Round 06 Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:54 pm | |
| Chat with Alex Alex (2:36:04 PM): Hey whats up Brant (2:43:38 PM): Not much Brant (2:43:47 PM): I just got a new mouse and I'm trying to make it less jumpy, lol Brant (2:43:49 PM): You? Alex (2:44:07 PM): Very hot day Alex (2:44:10 PM): I got the fan on Alex (2:44:17 PM): its intollerable Brant (2:44:28 PM): Yeah, I know I can't stand the heat Brant (2:44:33 PM): Where are you from? Alex (2:44:40 PM): Long Island New York Brant (2:44:54 PM): Oh, nice. I'm from around Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Brant (2:45:05 PM): So pretty similar temperatures Alex (2:45:10 PM): yup Alex (2:45:22 PM): has Bryan told you about the latest developments? Alex (2:45:28 PM): in the Wonka game Brant (2:45:45 PM): I haven't heard anything since yesterday afternoon Brant (2:45:51 PM): What's going on? Alex (2:46:07 PM): me and Pete had an interesting conversation Alex (2:46:34 PM): first time I met him. too,,, he hasnt even been on since Alex (2:46:37 PM): http://tinypic.com/r/2zgbyti/6 Brant (2:47:27 PM): Oh my Alex (2:47:39 PM): yea Brant (2:47:45 PM): lol, Bryan and I only worked on the challenge because no one else was on -_- Alex (2:48:06 PM): I know,,, he seems to think u2 have this super tight alliance Brant (2:48:35 PM): Yeah, I don't know what his deal is. Bryan helped me win it since he couldn't make the start and if he tried to win it for himself, it would never have ended. Brant (2:48:53 PM): Ugh. Alex (2:48:58 PM): Bryan told me he wants to vote Pete,,,, me and Violet are gonna do the same.... Brant (2:49:22 PM): He said he'd do that? Wowww Alex (2:49:32 PM): hopefully he'll be on later and we can see what his deal is,,, Pete that is Alex (2:49:41 PM): yeah Pete wanted to get Bryan off Brant (2:49:49 PM): Yeah, I really want to talk to them and figure it out Brant (2:49:53 PM): lo Brant (2:49:55 PM): lol Brant (2:50:01 PM): IF you 3 vote for Pete Brant (2:50:12 PM): Then my vote doesn't really matter Alex (2:50:28 PM): yeah, but didnt wanr you feleing left out Alex (2:50:36 PM): like at the vote and be like wtf? Alex (2:50:49 PM): which has happened to me Alex (2:50:55 PM): brb Brant (2:51:08 PM): Yeah, I'm glad you told me this Alex (2:52:33 PM): bak Brant (2:55:40 PM): Wb Brant (2:56:01 PM): Well if the 3 of you vote for Pete, I might as well join you. I'd just like to talk to Bryan himself and make sure that's what he said he'd do. Brant (2:56:10 PM): Ya know, just to be safe. Alex (2:56:17 PM): of course Alex (2:56:25 PM): any idea what happening on the other tribe? Brant (2:56:46 PM): Not the faintest idea Brant (2:57:05 PM): I thought we'd see their challenge results with our own...but nothing Brant (2:57:32 PM): I try to avoid the cross-tribe chatting before merge Brant (2:58:01 PM): I figure with Kyle going over there, someone from original Snozz will go home Alex (2:58:04 PM): yes, makes it more realistic Alex (3:01:49 PM): so howd you get a screename with your NAME Alex (3:01:54 PM): thats pretty cool\ Brant (3:02:44 PM): Haha, yeah, I used to have crazy screen names but decided to just go with brantsteele for email, AIM, and everything. It makes it easier to keep track of people. Brant (3:02:54 PM): I guess there aren't any other Brant's out there, lol. Alex (3:03:04 PM): I suppose not :0 Brant (3:03:34 PM): So you picked Alex Bell from Amazon? Alex (3:03:59 PM): lo, Alex is my real name Alex (3:04:09 PM): sometimes I play Alex Bell just cause of that Alex (3:04:20 PM): but I'm playing myself in the Wonka game Brant (3:04:30 PM): Oooh, I wasn't sure if it was alias or not Brant (3:04:59 PM): I don't think I've ever played with an Alex, have you done a lot of these? Alex (3:05:11 PM): nope, pretty new to me Alex (3:05:20 PM): never on this Site Alex (3:05:31 PM): usually proboards Brant (3:07:20 PM): Yeah, I've done a lot of on-off Proboards games. This is my first official ORG Planet game. I wanted to do some earlier games but was too busy. Brant (3:09:23 PM): I've been playing games for almost 10 years, but the last few years, I've only been doing them on-and-off. I want to get back into hosting sometime, too. Alex (3:09:29 PM): WOW Alex (3:09:38 PM): I only played in 3 on Proboards Alex (3:09:47 PM): in a 4th right now, Bermuda Triangle Brant (3:10:56 PM): Sounds like a fun theme :-D Brant (3:11:08 PM): Are players mysteriously vanishing? Alex (3:11:09 PM): it has 49 players... Brant (3:11:12 PM): Wow Brant (3:11:13 PM): ! Alex (3:11:17 PM): now down to 37 Alex (3:11:25 PM): 4 gone each round Alex (3:11:34 PM): 7 tribes,,, 7 people each,,, 3 win immunity Brant (3:12:00 PM): That is insane...49 players. I'm super-impressed that the host could find that many Alex (3:12:26 PM): yup, game had a lot og hype around it Brant (3:13:36 PM): I wish I would've known. I don't like being in multiple ones at a time, but it seems really interesting. Brant (3:13:37 PM): lol Alex (3:13:42 PM): of course, winning a game with that many people Alex (3:13:47 PM): would be quite a feat Alex (3:13:51 PM): Id be happy to make the Jury Brant (3:14:09 PM): Is it going to be 7 or more? Alex (3:14:15 PM): http://survbermudatriangle.proboards.com Alex (3:14:20 PM): I'm sure more than 7 Alex (3:14:26 PM): probably 11 or 13 Brant (3:14:43 PM): Making jury would be a big accomplishment. Do you know who is hosting it? Alex (3:14:58 PM): peacexxlovexx1 Brant (3:15:56 PM): Hmm, don't recognize that name. It's amazing how large this community is. Brant (3:16:05 PM): So many different people all interested in these games Brant (3:16:36 PM): I don't hear about large casts like that often, so it would be REALLY impressive to win it or make jury. Brant (3:16:55 PM): I'd be thrilled to make jury in this game, and it's only 17 players. Brant (3:16:56 PM): lol Alex (3:17:21 PM): lol yes Alex (3:17:29 PM): every game thats my goal Alex (3:17:32 PM): make the Jury Brant (3:18:37 PM): That's a good goal, I'm basically the same. Once you've got that insurance of being on it, some of the pressure's off. Brant (3:18:57 PM): And now we're soooo close Brant (3:19:12 PM): But I'm just confused about right now, what's going to happen here Alex (3:20:51 PM): oh I wouldnt you got Immunity :-) Brant (3:21:10 PM): For this round. :-D But idk about next one Alex (3:21:23 PM): oh yeah,, after this only 10 left Alex (3:21:30 PM): I believe it will go one more round Alex (3:21:34 PM): than 9 left Alex (3:21:40 PM): *then Alex (3:21:53 PM): which is jury time Brant (3:22:19 PM): Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if we merge at 9 Brant (3:22:29 PM): So the whole merged tribe makes jury Brant (3:23:56 PM): If we have these tribes again, I just want to win the next challenge Brant (3:24:03 PM): So we don't have to deal with the pressure of the vote Brant (3:24:24 PM): I haven't seen Violet on AIM yet to talk to her. Alex (3:24:36 PM): she was on a little yesterday Brant (3:25:07 PM): Oohh, I must've missed her Brant (3:33:31 PM): I'm going to restart to see if it makes my mouse less out-of-control Brant (3:33:35 PM): Back in a minute or two Brant (3:41:34 PM): Back! Alex (3:42:00 PM): lol fun timing,,, I have to brb Brant (3:42:10 PM): Aw, okay.
Thoughts on Chat You know what, I don't believe this. This chat happened before Kyle left, so I think that Pete was just playing his cards right to keep him from getting 3 votes. Granted he might think that Bryan and I are tight, but we've done nothing publicly to show that we have a close bond so he was probably lying to Alex there. So I think that this is a non-issue now and that everything will proceed smoothly for the vote. I'd like to talk to Bryan and Pete. I think I'm going to send Pete a PM saying Alex is scrambling and trying to split us, but I'm not going to listen to him and think we're good here and next round.
By sending Pete that PM, Alex can't as effectively use what Bryan and I said about targeting Pete against us and loop back around to join Pete and target Bryan. This is super, ultra-important for us to succeed right here and now or Bryan and I could be 10th and 11th. I need to talk to them both ultra-importantly. So I'm PMing Pete, just as an extra cushion although I believe that he and Bryan both currently have votes for Violet to go home.
Pete also needs to step up and admit he was talking to them (or maybe he wants to send them home the next 2 rounds so no one knows) or we have legit reason to believe he will play both sides and send us home. That is really important for our merge plans, or we'll have to change everything. I'm not gonna lie, either, but I believe that Deetster may be cross-tribe chatting with Pete and that this is an influence on what's going on here. Deetster. But there's no evidence to suggest that yet. | |
| | | Brant Winner
Posts : 2796 Join date : 2009-09-07 Location : Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Round 06 Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:00 pm | |
| PM to PeteI think Alex and Violet have made some "create chaos" plan and are trying to split us, but I'm still voting Violet regardless of what they try to do to persuade me otherwise. I have confirmed that Bryan isn't listening to them either and is still voting for Violet, so we should be good here with 3/5 votes. I just wanted to let you know in case they try to get to you with their lies. Talk to you more soon, Brant ThoughtsMaybe I should just shut up and it would've helped this vote, but no, that's just not what I do. I like rolling under the radar and subtly manipulating things, but if I did nothing here and Bryan or Pete went home, I would've blamed myself for not being able to hold Bryan and Pete together. So I needed to send that PM. | |
| | | Brant Winner
Posts : 2796 Join date : 2009-09-07 Location : Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Round 06 Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:37 pm | |
| Well, at least I'm playing in a way that I'm not necessarily against Alex, Bryan, or Pete. Heck, I even have a good, justified reason for voting Violet (since she hasn't attempted to talk to me) so if someone unexpectedly goes home, I still have options and haven't burned any bridges.
I have to admit, Alex is playing his cards well. I didn't know what to expect out of him, but he has impressed me strategically regardless of how this round ends. | |
| | | Brant Winner
Posts : 2796 Join date : 2009-09-07 Location : Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Round 06 Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:07 pm | |
| So omg wtf am I doing in a chatroom with Alex and Pete? Hahahaha, this is madness. I am so not under the radar right now. | |
| | | Brant Winner
Posts : 2796 Join date : 2009-09-07 Location : Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Round 06 Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:45 pm | |
| Chat with Pete Pete (7:53:34 PM): hey Brant (7:53:46 PM): Oh, hey Pete! Brant (7:53:58 PM): How's it going Pete (7:54:03 PM): hey, its going good, u? Brant (7:54:57 PM): It's going good. Thanks to Alex, there's more drama than I wanted in this last hour before votes are due Pete (7:55:08 PM): oh is he online? Pete (7:55:35 PM): what's his sn? Brant (7:55:36 PM): Uh, he was online earlier and signed off almost exactly when you signed on. He was trying to get me to vote for you. Brant (7:55:47 PM): alexbellamazon Pete (7:56:20 PM): oh I know, he made a fake conversation and made a pic of it showing Bryan that I was planning to backstab you two, which since I've never spoken to him is a complete fake Brant (7:57:19 PM): Ohhh, wow. I honestly didn't think either of you were going to vote for each other but I just wanted to find out what was going on. Pete (7:58:16 PM): I'm beyond annoyed with this, honestly, if it wasn't so close to when votes were due I wish we voted out Alex instead of Violet Brant (7:58:32 PM): Hopefully we can just do it next round. Pete (7:59:05 PM): yeah definitely, I want him gone asap, I don't like people who play like that, there is no need for it Pete (7:59:17 PM): https://2img.net/h/oi46.tinypic.com/2zgbyti.jpg Pete (7:59:29 PM): that is the conversation screen cap that Alex sent Bryan Brant (8:00:49 PM): Wow, Alex was really into that Brant (8:01:05 PM): Alex uses the "multiple comma" thing all the time Brant (8:01:16 PM): And your screen name has a couple Pete (8:01:21 PM): I am going to call him out on his BS, just to let you know Brant (8:02:13 PM): Thanks, I believe you. The conversation doesn't seem like you at all. Brant (8:03:23 PM): When he IMed me earlier, I just acted surprised and said I'd have to talk to Bryan and Pete because all I had was Alex word. Pete (8:03:45 PM): thanks, I'm glad you trust me Pete (8:04:31 PM): he's back online, I'm gonna make a chat for the three of us Brant (8:04:44 PM): Okay, cool. He just IMed me asking if I talked to you or Bryan yet Brant (8:04:44 PM): lol Pete (8:06:24 PM): I'm calling him out on everything Brant (8:06:39 PM): He deserves it
Chat with Alex and Pete Brant (8:05:50 PM): Hello there... Pete (8:05:56 PM): hi, so I guess we got some things to discuss Alex... Alex (8:06:16 PM): whats up Pete (8:07:17 PM): apparently you made a fake convo to say that you had a convo with me and that I sad I'd vote for Bryan this round, and considering this is the first time we've ever spoken, that is complete bull Alex (8:07:36 PM): fake huh? Alex (8:07:59 PM): nice try comeback in the 11th hour and try to deny it Alex (8:08:35 PM): Violet and I didnt wanna go thorugh with your plan Pete (8:08:35 PM): well considering I was on a train without internet at the time that the convo apparently happened, how is it possible that I talked with you Alex (8:08:52 PM): I dunno how did you? Alex (8:09:12 PM): this isnt the first time u been on Pete (8:09:39 PM): are you really this pathetic, seriously? Alex (8:10:05 PM): your calling me pathetic but your denying a conversation happened when it did Alex (8:10:35 PM): you got caught,,, get over it Pete (8:10:39 PM): well it didn't, not with me, I wasn't on aim at all this weekend, except for late last night, long after your fake convo Alex (8:11:10 PM): late last night is when I talked to you Alex (8:11:19 PM): and when I told Bryan early in the morning a few hours later Alex (8:11:28 PM): ask bryan when he comes on Brant (8:11:47 PM): Um Brant (8:11:53 PM): Why is the time 12:39 PM? Alex (8:11:57 PM): has Bryan been on? Brant (8:11:58 PM): On Sunday afternoon? Brant (8:12:06 PM): If you talked to him late last night? Alex (8:12:33 PM): I dont remember when I spoke with Pete,, but I know me and Bryan were talking like 5 or 6 in the morning by time Alex (8:12:59 PM): by my time Alex (8:14:24 PM): he knows bryan isnt going anymore, so he wants to save himself Pete (8:14:27 PM): you can't keep the story straight because you know you are caught lying, just give it up already because this is just absolutely pathetic Alex (8:14:31 PM): I cant blame him I guess Alex (8:15:00 PM): Like I said I dont remember that exact time we spoke I dont have Time stamps Alex (8:15:10 PM): but I know when I spoke with Bryan about you Alex (8:15:45 PM): I took the screenshot cause I knew Brant and Bryan would think I'm lying Pete (8:15:46 PM): you don't have to, your screenshot says the time and date that we spoke which says 12:39pm which since I was in the middle of the city with no computer access, never mind internet access, it obviously wasn't me Alex (8:16:06 PM): then thats whenever it was Alex (8:16:28 PM): and obviously you did have internet access whenever we spoke Pete (8:17:22 PM): you can keep saying the same thing but no one believes you because it is obvious it was you, the type from me is even like yours Alex (8:18:12 PM): dude you wanted Bryan just cant admit it Alex (8:18:36 PM): and I ddint have to tell Brant,, only needed to warn Bryan Alex (8:18:41 PM): why would I do that? Pete (8:20:24 PM): maybe I should discuss this matter with the host, because someone doing something like this pisses me off big time and I won't put up with it Alex (8:20:34 PM): please do Brant (8:20:39 PM): Honestly, Alex...Pete wasn't around at the time the conversation occurred and doesn't talk like that over IM Brant (8:20:57 PM): He hadn't even visited the board to see challenge results by that time Alex (8:21:14 PM): Well I dont know about the AIM time, 12:39 pm, maybe was really am Alex (8:21:31 PM): thats why I dont bother with tim stamps Alex (8:21:38 PM): but u can believe what u want Brant (8:22:26 PM): What time does your computer say right now? Alex (8:22:55 PM): 8:22 Brant (8:23:04 PM): AM or PM? Alex (8:23:11 PM): duh pm Alex (8:23:34 PM): it is night isnt it Pete (8:23:36 PM): how old are you Alex? Alex (8:23:56 PM): where do u live Pete? Alex (8:24:09 PM): different time zones Pete (8:24:21 PM): where do you live? Alex (8:24:22 PM): or u trying to just dismiss what happened Alex (8:24:29 PM): Long island Pete (8:24:38 PM): I mean obviously you are on the east coast, which so am I Alex (8:24:58 PM): the you were on at that time and your lying Alex (8:25:06 PM): cause thats when the conversation happened Alex (8:25:20 PM): and now ur trying pass it off as a fake Alex (8:25:26 PM): enjoy your day Brant (8:25:38 PM): late last night is when I talked to you
(8:11:19 PM): and when I told Bryan early in the morning a few hours later
(8:11:28 PM): ask bryan when he comes on Brant (8:25:52 PM): He's screwed. Pete (8:25:59 PM): yeah totally and he knows it lol
Chat with Pete Pete (8:09:59 PM): he's so lame Brant (8:10:50 PM): Yeah. You couldn't have possibly seen the results when you "had that conversation" Brant (8:11:01 PM): Since I sent you a PM and you didn't even read it at that time. Pete (8:11:14 PM): I didn't even think of that Brant (8:13:14 PM): His story's falling apart Brant (8:13:19 PM): and he keeps using those multiple commas Brant (8:14:30 PM): It's almost as good as catching him with Photoshop minimized. Pete (8:14:55 PM): yeah Brant (8:15:41 PM): If he thinks Bryan is going to vote for you, he's completely wrong. Brant (8:15:56 PM): If Bryan signs on soon, it's not too late to change our votes to him. Brant (8:16:09 PM): To Alex Pete (8:16:11 PM): yeah hopefully Bryan does cause I really want to Pete (8:22:37 PM): he is just digging himself further and further each time he speaks Brant (8:23:21 PM): Yeah, it doesn't make any sense Brant (8:24:06 PM): He should just admit he's wrong and try to save himself rather than this Pete (8:26:39 PM): agreed Brant (8:27:57 PM): I'm saving that chat and posting it in my confessional Pete (8:28:01 PM): same Pete (8:28:25 PM): I wish there was a way I could prove I was nowhere near a computer at that time, though sorta do with the pm situation Brant (8:28:45 PM): Yeah, I think I remember checking my Outbox to see if the PM had been read or not Pete (8:28:53 PM): I am going to speak with Doug about this cause I feel things like this are wrong to do Brant (8:28:58 PM): Because when it's read it leaves the Outbox and goes to the Sentbox Pete (8:29:04 PM): yeah I know Brant (8:29:09 PM): And I'm almost positive you hadn't read it. Brant (8:29:22 PM): Which I'm sure you would've done before randomly targeting me Brant (8:29:23 PM): lol Pete (8:29:23 PM): I hadn't, I responded minutes after reading it Brant (8:29:30 PM): *targeting Bryan Pete (8:30:09 PM): I wouldn't be shocked if Kyle, Violet and Alex made this plan prior to him switching tribes to take me out and gain control on both sides Brant (8:30:45 PM): Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. Brant (8:30:50 PM): Based on reading that convo on the board Brant (8:30:58 PM): Alex, Kyle, Violet and Ben were all aligned Brant (8:31:06 PM): And then they sent Ben home since he went on vacation Brant (8:32:06 PM): And it looks like when Bill went home, the 4 of them grabbed Deetster as their 5th vote. Brant (8:32:10 PM): So it was 5-3. Brant (8:32:30 PM): Er wait Brant (8:32:34 PM): They grabbed Cory as their 5th vote. Pete (8:32:43 PM): I still haven't read the entire convo yet, gonna try again Brant (8:33:40 PM): Yeah, it was Deetster who looked like he reluctantly joined them. Based on the conversation, Kyle looks just as bad as Alex. Pete (8:34:15 PM): this game is gonna get ugly with people like Kyle and Alex playing, gotta get them out asap, and Deet cause he is a dangerous player Brant (8:35:24 PM): Right. I think voting out Alex is top priority. Pete (8:35:33 PM): definitely Brant (8:35:37 PM): If he can make a conversation like that...and I'm sure it was him because of the typing style Pete (8:35:43 PM): is he still talking to you? Brant (8:35:49 PM): It was obviously fake but it could've convinced people Brant (8:35:55 PM): if they didn't know well enough Brant (8:36:08 PM): He hasn't said anything since before the chat Pete (8:36:11 PM): exactly, I'm just glad both you and Bryan know me well enough to see through it Brant (8:37:03 PM): Me, too. Bryan has like 25 minutes and we can end this now... Pete (8:37:16 PM): yeah I really hope he gets online soon Brant (8:37:27 PM): Violet hasn't even attempted to talk to me, but Alex said he's been in touch with her. Pete (8:37:59 PM): yeah that is weird Brant (8:38:09 PM): She must be counting on Alex or something Brant (8:38:29 PM): I talked a while to Alex earlier. He said he's in another game right now. He sent me a link to the cast list and Kyle's in it, too. Brant (8:38:33 PM): I don't know why he would've done that. Brant (8:38:49 PM): But those two are a concern. Pete (8:38:54 PM): definitely Pete (8:39:02 PM): I wish we had realized all of this earlier than now Brant (8:39:55 PM): Yeah. Until earlier, I just had a 5-minute conversation with Alex after the challenge where he congratulated me and had a PM from Violet before the challenge saying she was going to be away for the weekend when we were "paired" Brant (8:40:01 PM): So I didn't know anything
Thoughts on the World Thank you, Pete, for stepping up and proving that you're innocent. I'm sorry that I ever doubted you and we'll be stronger than ever now. My god, Alex's fake was good. But after thinking about it, it's definitely fake. Goodbye, Violet. | |
| | | Sponsored content
| Subject: Re: Round 06 | |
| |
| | | | Round 06 | |
|
Similar topics | |
|
| Permissions in this forum: | You cannot reply to topics in this forum
| |
| |
| |
|