Season 6 - Saw - Day 2

The group administered the needles into their arms. One by one they fell to the floor blacking out from the substance within the syringe. The accomplices awoke from pretending to pass out and moved the group into another room for their next trial.

In the middle of the room was a button which stood on a type of large bear trap covered in large spikes.

Once again the tv turned on and the same puppet stared out at them.

As the TV turned on everyone began to stir from their black out.

One by one people everyone gathered around. Only one person did not move.

Termy had been poisoned by the accomplices.



The puppet spoke.

"Welcome, It seems you have got one of my accomplices, but at what cost? It seems Termy was the first one of the innocent victims to perish. Don't think this game is so fun anymore? Well before you sits a bear trap full of spikes. It only takes one person to stand on that button in the middle of it to release the door to your next trial. Just as before, you must select one person in your group to save you from this room. You will have until 05 November 2010 ETA: 23:59"

The tv shut off and the group was left alone to once again select the next victim to the groups salvation

Good luck

Player List
1. Tiffani
2. Kenya
3. DragonTear
4. Deetster
5. Gary
6. Alexmel
8. Camalamadingdong
9. Pete
10. Virtuanno
11. Dragonldy640
12. derBmoose
13. PhocQ
14. Jackie
GAME OVER:
1. Brant - Lynched - Day 1: Jigsaws Accomplice
2. Termy - Night Killed - Day 2: Innocent Victim


DEADLINE: 05 November 2010: Time 23:59 EST

VOTES:

Pending Votes:
Tiffani, Kenya, Dragontear, Deester, Gary, Alexmel, Dogdude84, Pete, Virtuanno, Dragonldy640, derBmoose, PhocQ, Jackie

OMG I still can't believe that Brant was an accomplice.. that completely took me off guard.. was not expecting that.. now I do believe that at least one of the accomplices voted against Brant to try to make themselves look innocent..

I feel that this whole thing.. makes PhocQ look really innocent.. as well as it makes Dragonldy look innocent, as well as it's making Tiffani also seem more innocent.. I feel that those people for sure are more likely innocent than not.. since PhocQ started the vote against Brant.. Dragonldy finished it and would not have done so if she was an accomplice. The fact that Brant voted for dragonldy and for Tiffani.. basically helps make both of them look innocent.

I could see one of the accomplices possibly voting around the middle for Brant. As well as the other one being someone that didn't vote for Brant.

Poor Termy!

Seeing as how it happened so quickly, I could see an accomplice placing a Brant vote and not being able to retract it in time to save him. I also think it is worth investigating who voted with Brant last round as well, maybe try and flush out some teamwork activity? As far as I can remember, the Tiffani vote was the only one he participated in, I will have to browse the last rounds threads...

I also can't shake the idea that possibly Termy hit on something throughout the course of the round, and is why he got killed...

Gah! I wish I had time to revisit everything, and not get ready for work!!

I do believe Brant also was part of the vote for Dragonldy when that originally started..

Which is part of the reason some were suspicious of him in the first place.. because of how he voted for dragonldy and then jumped on the vote for Tiffani so quickly.. which isn't like him. He was naming out those that voted for both of those people and excluding himself.. and then someone pointed out that he was excluding himself and voted for him.

I feel suspicious of Cam though because he didn't vote at all and it just didn't seem like he wanted to vote for Brant and then when I voted for him and then Deet and Pete followed along with the vote for him.. Brant didn't jump on board but the moment that Tiffani started getting votes he jumped on board for that.. that almost seems like he didn't want to vote for Cam and since Brant turned out to be an accomplice.. he wouldn't just jump on board to vote out another accomplice as quickly as he did for the vote for Tiffani..

so for now.. I vote for Cam.

i agree with derbmoose, but yet brant did defend him. right now i think the most suspicious players in my mind are cam because i think he must of had a good role for him to return the game. i know he was having a bad day, but for the host to talk him into staying to me seems like he has a role, he might even be the seer..who knows.. and i think that derbmoose is suspicious as well because he did not vote in the end but he did vote like right off the bat and when everyone was trying to take down dragonldy he did not switch his vote at all...., and brant did kinda protect him in a way. but who knows i guess we will have to see whats gonna happen this round wont we?

with that said, i vote for derbmoose again

Time... running... out...... work in 30 minutes!

Ugh, for realz? I'm innocent I tells ya. When I read that Brant was an accomplice, I pretty much figured this was gonna happen though. I honestly thought Virtuanno was an accomplice the whole last round, but after Brant got the boot, I really want to go back and re-read his posts, I found this one on page 2 to be intriguing at the least:

Brant wrote:

...the key to being a successful wolf was to play the game the way that you always play it so that you don't stand out. I think the second key would be to not associate yourself with other wolves so that if one is taken out, the others don't follow. Those two things are what led the wolves to winning last game, so hopefully having seen the wolves play it so well last game will help us learn for this one in preventing them from winning again.

Since my blinders were up to Brant at the time, I read his posts as if an innocent were speaking, not an accomplice. Now that I know better, I want to re-read his posts instead of jumping to quick conclusions like I did last round. More to come after work I hope!

Wow, well I never expected that at all. I was SO sure Brant was innocent. I feel so dumb now, but I'm glad those of you who voted him didn't listen to me. I believed his post that he was the seer but I guess that was just Brant having a little fun.

So, I agree that PhocQ is probably not an accomplice since he started the vote and Dragonldy since she ended it. I also feel that Deet and Virtuanno are probably not accomplices now, or Tiffani.

When I saw the results I thought Termy might be with Brant, so I'm not sure why the accomplices would kill him. I also agree that Dogdude looks a bit suspicious because of reasons Kenya stated above. I also thought about Kenya because she seemed to agree with Brant but I doubt Brant would have jumped on the Tiffani vote right after Kenya did if they were together.

I'm leaning toward Dragontear still or possibly Dogdude. But then what do I know? There is still a possibility that the heavily sedated person is an accomplice, also. For now, though...


I vote for Dragontear

Actually, I just read back and saw the Dragontear voted for Brant, which I had forgotten. I retract my vote for Dragontear and



vote to lynch Dogdude



It just makes more sense to me right now and I don't know if Dragontear would have voted for Brant when it was very possible he could be lynched. Maybe he would...I just don't think so.

Just so you all know, at the end of last round...

Votes for Brant: Pete, Dragontear, Tiffani, Dragonldy, Virtuanno, PhocQ,Alexmel, Deetster.
Votes for Tiffani: Jackie, Kenya, Brant.
Did not vote: Termy, Dogdude, derBmoose.

I saw Brant as really trying to protect derBmoose last round.

He was really against the fact that I was voting for him and was telling people not to vote for him, which seems to me like there might have been a link there.

I'm not seeing why Dogdude is getting votes.

I vote to sacrifice derBmoose.

I'm not understanding why I'm getting votes either. I helped lynch Brant because he and Pete were high on my suspect list as they voted in 2 lynches. I pointed this out, lol. I did not vote to lynch Brant because it was late and I wanted to think about it a bit more before the deadline. I (and many others) wasn't sure if he was a wolf or not. I'm glad enough people thought he was though!

Why would I quit the game if I had a role? I respect this game enough to see it through if I'm important.

"Well, Cam, every role is important. Especially the villagers!"

Yes, I know guys. It was a rough day on me.

Anyway, I don't want to vote right now because it's way early in the round. Though as Kenya pointed out, a wolf probably voted to lynch Brant, so I'll be going back to look at those votes, as well as the other voting trends again from the past round.

Oh, another point I wanted to talk about. Brant probably didn't vote for me because the votes for me came so quickly. The votes fell off just as quickly because of my quitting. So, by the time he saw votes were piling up on me (and then gone), the votes had moved on to someone else.

For me personally, I think that me thinking logically, really payed off, and not reacting to gut insticts. RIght now, I do have a gut instinct telling me that Dogdude could easily be a really manipulative accomplice, but I instead am going to think logically.

I'm going to look at who is voting who, and remember what I found so damn weird last round. Brant DID limit the vote down to DerBmoose and Virtuanno at a point. The issue with that behavior was that I don't think he would limit the vote to his accomplice and a target, even if his plan was to get Virtuanno out. It would have just been way too risky a statement to make.

Furthermore, at that point, I think Dogdude would have been better off voting for Tiffani already if he was an accomplice. Dogdude just sitting back, and the fact the accomplices decided to limit the pool of people who didn't vote (by taking Termy out) makes me think that Dogdude as an accomplice would have left MORE people in the game who were in his position. At the least it tells me people who decided to kill Termy with him if he is an accomplice aren't JUST the no-voters.

I think that the Brant voters certainly could have contained accomplices, but I think it makes much more sense at least for now to go after some people who voted Tiffani, and are likely to have been trying to remove an innocent from the game as an accomplice, with Brant.

With that said, I'm voting for the person who from round 1 I have saw switching betwen voting different people, which I found extremely uncharacteristic, and pointed out. In addition, the person right now if voting Dogdude, which I agree with Virtuanno, doesn't seem the right move. So..

I vote to lynch Jackie

Woohoo! That was way sweet.

I am a little surprised in how quickly people are voting already. Especially given what we learned from the last vote.

I think the last round had to have been a complete disaster for the accomplices. I really don't think they ever expected Brant to be lynched the first vote, and I think we will be able to find a ton of clues in what everyone said and did last round. I have some very strong suspicions about a number of people and I know I am not alone in those thoughts.

There are a number of people who I can now trust and I think they know that as well. To those people I say while our fingers badly want to point at people, we need to use this round as best as we can and milk the most out of it. I know that by the end of the day we will do the right thing. But we have a few days to work to solve the complete puzzle, not just 2/3 of it.

We have the accompices freaked out, no doubt about it. Now let's be smart and not let those little rats get out of the corner.

derBmoose wrote:

Ugh, for realz? I'm innocent I tells ya. When I read that Brant was an accomplice, I pretty much figured this was gonna happen though.

Your innocent it seems to me that you knew he was an accomplice. brant was saying he was innocent and trying to get people to think he was not a accomplice, especially at the end of the day. but i guess we will have to see about you

That is a good way to look at it PhocQ, I went ahead and voted Cam right away because I feel he's suspicious.. just with the reasons I already stated AND because I wanted to see how others react to that vote.. whether they agree or not, it generates more discussion and I want to see what else we can get out of this.

Last round I did not vote for dragonldy, but I did vote for Tiffani and that was because what Jackie said made sense to me and I had been thinking about the things she said before she said them and I merely agreed, therefore put another vote to see what would happen. I think Brant's downfall was jumping right over to that vote. He shouldn't have done that.. but I mean if he was doing that.. why didn't he do the same thing for Cam.. is why I'm questioning Cam.

WOW, first of all I am shocked but freaking excited that we got an accomplice right off the bat.
I just got home from shopping and need to put groceries away but I have been constantly looking in and was happy to see new day up. Need to read everything when i get back.
Termy

I'm still thinking that dragonlady is an accomplice. What better way to take the suspicion off herself then to cast the last vote for Brant. I realize that she would be voting out a fellow accomplice but maybe she was looking out more for herself than Brant.

For now I vote Dragonlady

Ok, I have my tea, my meatloaf and my groceries away, i am good to go lmfao

I have read through everything and I have to say that I am shocking myself, but I'm not sure I think Dragonlady is an accomplice. I see the points for both sides of that BUT, we still had another day of voting, if she is an accomplice, why did she jump on so early to end the round? That makes me see her as innocent. Then again................like Gary said, she could've been throwing us off her scent thinking that it was a lost cause so why not.

I also see some good points for and against Cam..........

Deetster wrote:

With that said, I'm voting for the person who from round 1 I have saw switching betwen voting different people, which I found extremely uncharacteristic, and pointed out. In addition, the person right now if voting Dogdude, which I agree with Virtuanno, doesn't seem the right move. So..

I vote to lynch Jackie

Well, I figured I would be looked at since I was defending Brant so hard last round and I'm not surprised that you are voting for me because you always seem to want to vote me - except the round where I was indeed a wolf.

You say you're thinking logically and I appreciate that you need to go with what you think but let me ask you this: I know I was wrong about Brant and, as I said, I feel really stupid about that... but do you really think I'm stupid enough to defend Brant SO strongly so I would stick out like that if he were lynched? I really thought I was onto something with Tiffani and I really thought you guys were screwing up by lynching him. I was so frustrated and I figured I was going to be killed because of who I had pointed to so I figured I'd just go for it and try to persuade everyone Brant was innocent. I viewed Brant just as I have in the last game where I knew he was innocent. I thought he was making sense.

Either way, if I was his accomplice I would not have been so adamant about his innocence. I think I was smart enough not to do that last game when I was a wolf. I was ready to lynch Dragonldy to protect myself and would never have taken a fall with her. It's kind of insulting that you think I'm that retarded.

I also don't see how it's uncharacteristic of me to change votes. I've definitely done that before and I'll definitely change votes again if I see good reason to.

well as always I don't know what to think so let me try to say what I'm thinking.

I agree with what a lot of people have said, especially regarding Cam and Jackie, however I also agree with what Jackie has said and that is why would she defend Brant so much if she was an accomplice with him. She is probably one of the smartest players, I'd be shocked if she ever did something like that.

I want to know why Termy was targeted by the accomplices. Termy only voted once and it was for Virtuanno, and I don't really think he is an accomplice.

Sorry I'm not much help, I'll try to come on tomorrow but as it is Halloween I might not be able to make it online at all.

I forgot to mention, I do agree with what Cam said in that Brant wouldn't have had a chance to switch his vote, as that whole thing did happen relatively quickly.

I don't know who I suspect right now, but I really do feel that Dragonldy could still be an accomplice. Other than that I'm not sure right now and need to take the time to look at everyone, will probably have to wait until Monday before I'll have the time to do that.

Brant was around when the Cam vote happened because I was chatting with him.. granted we weren't speaking about the game since that's not allowed but still he was around during that time. And I just looked at the times.. I posted my vote at 12:04 and Deet posted at 12:16pm and then Pete posted at 12:31 pm.. so the vote wasn't as quickly as people seem to think it was, there was plenty of time for him to vote that way. (Those times are in PST)

Wow, I'm really surprised that Brant was an accomplish! Getting rid of one right away is awesome! I'm glad I was the final vote and put the nail in Brant's coffin...lol! I'm not sure who's suspicious at this point. I'll come back later to vote!

Happy Halloween!!!

Kenya wrote:

I posted my vote at 12:04 and Deet posted at 12:16pm and then Pete posted at 12:31 pm.. so the vote wasn't as quickly as people seem to think it was

When a round lasts about a week, and a vote like that takes place within half an hour... I would call that pretty quick. If Brant were to jump right on that vote like Deet and Pete did, it would have made him look even more wolfy. That would have made 3 votes he participated in. It basically would have been a done deal for him, rather than us getting kind of lucky.