Episode 6 - Tribe Shuffle

Surprise Surprise there is a tribe shuffle, figures.. we were all kind of predicting it would be something along those lines. It's all good though. I'm sad that Bryan and Brant aren't on my tribe now but I'm happy that Cam is still with me and happy that Deet is on this tribe. But by no means do I feel safe at all because low and behold.. CORY IS ON MY TRIBE TOO UGH!! So I was in panic mode at first but then I thought alright.. I need to feel out everyone and figure out a game plan. So I spoke with Travis to try to keep him solid, as well spoke with Deet to see where his head is at and I also ended up talking to Cory. Which was just pure craziness. Let's just say I've made myself have a bunch of options all in a two hour span.

So I will post some conversations to get a better picture of the events of tonight..


Conversation with Travis:
Travisimogoat (6:17:42 PM): Yay!
SunSet141k (6:17:47 PM): hey!
Travisimogoat (6:17:48 PM): we are still tribemate!
SunSet141k (6:17:52 PM): yes we are :-)
SunSet141k (6:17:56 PM): sucks that we have to go to TC though
Travisimogoat (6:18:00 PM): I KNOW!
SunSet141k (6:18:02 PM): I'm worried about the other tribe!
Travisimogoat (6:18:03 PM): BLECK
Travisimogoat (6:18:22 PM): like the new other tribe or the old other tribe?
SunSet141k (6:18:25 PM): we have to find out how to take one of them out instead of one of our former tribe!
SunSet141k (6:18:36 PM): :-)
Travisimogoat (6:18:49 PM): well we need to find if any of them have previous votes i guess
Travisimogoat (6:18:54 PM): thats our best bet
SunSet141k (6:18:58 PM): true
Travisimogoat (6:19:01 PM): or are you close to Sadie?
SunSet141k (6:19:11 PM): no I don't think I've ever met her
SunSet141k (6:19:15 PM): but I do know that cory hates me
Travisimogoat (6:19:15 PM): oh bummer
SunSet141k (6:19:19 PM): so he'll probably gun for me :-(
Travisimogoat (6:19:26 PM): really?
Travisimogoat (6:19:33 PM): hmm, do you think he could have votes?
SunSet141k (6:19:40 PM): I dont' know
SunSet141k (6:19:48 PM): he could be close with all his tribe for all I know lol
Travisimogoat (6:19:58 PM): cuz i think with Ben getting voted out, he probably threw out an anger vote maybe
Travisimogoat (6:19:59 PM): idk
SunSet141k (6:20:10 PM): oh is he close to ben?
Travisimogoat (6:20:11 PM): yea I just dont know anything about that tribe dynamic
SunSet141k (6:20:37 PM): are you close to cory?
SunSet141k (6:22:42 PM): I think no matter what our original tribe needs to stick together, what you think?
Travisimogoat (6:28:21 PM): sorry
Travisimogoat (6:28:25 PM): roomie just got in
Travisimogoat (6:28:28 PM): he got a promotion!
SunSet141k (6:28:29 PM): it's cool no worries
SunSet141k (6:28:32 PM): that's awesome!
Travisimogoat (6:28:39 PM): I know cory, but we have a very complex history
Travisimogoat (6:28:51 PM): we have faught a lot and made up too, idk where we stand honestly
Travisimogoat (6:29:00 PM): WE HAVE TO STICK TOGETHER
Travisimogoat (6:29:01 PM): period
Travisimogoat (6:29:05 PM): no other option
SunSet141k (6:29:09 PM): exactly
Travisimogoat (6:29:11 PM): its an absolute must
SunSet141k (6:29:25 PM): Cory has a past vote
Travisimogoat (6:30:03 PM): oh man, thats really good to know!!!!!
Travisimogoat (6:30:09 PM): hey i am going to eat fish tacos
Travisimogoat (6:30:12 PM): be back in an hour
Travisimogoat (6:30:16 PM): cool?
SunSet141k (6:30:58 PM): alright cool
Travisimogoat went away at 6:31:19 PM
SunSet141k (7:15:10 PM): are you there?
SunSet141k (7:20:04 PM): please please come back so you can help me win over deet! I'd rather the immunity be on our original tribe.
Travisimogoat (7:46:39 PM): okay
SunSet141k (7:46:45 PM): too late lol
Travisimogoat (7:47:25 PM): oh bummer
SunSet141k (7:47:37 PM): I won though or at least I should be the winner
SunSet141k (7:47:44 PM): we'll see he's double checking
Travisimogoat (7:48:22 PM): are you sure you won?
SunSet141k (7:48:43 PM): deet didn't put a candy back to sadie
SunSet141k (7:48:56 PM): and doug wrote in the middle of the challenge that we have to not make any mistakes like that
Travisimogoat (7:48:58 PM): oh okay
SunSet141k (7:48:59 PM): or it doesn't count
Travisimogoat (7:49:45 PM): well goodluck!
Travisimogoat (7:49:48 PM): i hope you win
Travisimogoat (7:50:01 PM): who would you send to the glass elevator
SunSet141k (7:50:09 PM): not sure yet
Travisimogoat (7:50:30 PM): i am amazed at how fast that went
Travisimogoat (7:50:39 PM): i didnt think I was at dinner all that long :-)
SunSet141k (7:51:14 PM): lol
Travisimogoat (7:51:25 PM): hahaha it was a good dineer though
Travisimogoat (7:51:27 PM): dinner
Travisimogoat (7:55:57 PM): So what are you up to this weekend?
SunSet141k (7:58:15 PM): um work tomorro
SunSet141k (7:58:16 PM): tomorrow
Travisimogoat (7:58:25 PM): oh fun hahaha
Travisimogoat (7:58:29 PM): nothing planned for tonight?
SunSet141k (7:58:44 PM): i'm going for a walk I'll be back a bit later
Travisimogoat (7:58:57 PM): okay cool
Travisimogoat (7:58:58 PM): peace
Travisimogoat (8:09:18 PM): Well if there is an Idol in the glass elevator, i think you should send me, because of my previous vote, otherwise i think there is a good chance i could be getting the 3 votes from their tribe. IDK though. just me thinking out loud, you can do whatever you think is smartest. I trust you.
Travisimogoat returned at 8:11:37 PM
Travisimogoat (8:48:39 PM): well just let me know if you want to chat anymore tonight
Travisimogoat went away at 8:56:46 PM
SunSet141k (9:54:41 PM): sorry about that

---Basically my whole point to this conversation was to solidify an alliance with him. To make sure he's on board with Cam and I.. although he could be lying and I honestly don't really trust Travis at all but I had to do something.. and I have to make him feel comfortable with me. Need him on my side for now. But I mean for all I know he's close with Cory.. I really don't know for sure.. just know what others tell me and what he tells me.


Conversation with Deet:
SunSet141k (5:57:09 PM): hey hey
Deetman91 (5:57:59 PM): hey watsup
SunSet141k (6:00:26 PM): here for the challenge!
SunSet141k (6:00:26 PM): lol
Deetman91 (6:00:46 PM): wooooo
Deetman91 (6:00:48 PM): did you see?
Deetman91 (6:01:07 PM): well
Deetman91 (6:01:09 PM): partial woo
Deetman91 (6:01:09 PM): lol
SunSet141k (6:01:20 PM): oh god
SunSet141k (6:01:22 PM): lol
SunSet141k (6:02:07 PM): I'm stuck with cory :-(
SunSet141k (6:02:51 PM): but at least I"m on a tribe with you! <3
Deetman91 (6:02:55 PM): yes
Deetman91 (6:02:58 PM): that's greatness
Deetman91 (6:03:13 PM): question now is
Deetman91 (6:03:28 PM): so we're all going to TC?
SunSet141k (6:04:24 PM): yeah and it's individual immunity
SunSet141k (6:04:25 PM): *sigh*
Deetman91 (6:04:32 PM): ugh
Deetman91 (6:04:33 PM): well
Deetman91 (6:04:37 PM): this should be hard
Deetman91 (6:05:26 PM): who is Jonathan btw?
Deetman91 (6:05:29 PM): that was cournojo?
SunSet141k (6:05:31 PM): yeah
Deetman91 (6:05:34 PM): ok good lol
Deetman91 (6:05:42 PM): he irked me
Deetman91 (6:05:47 PM): tried to make an alliance with me day 1
Deetman91 (6:05:47 PM): lol
Deetman91 (6:07:34 PM): so this is going to be unpleasant
Deetman91 (6:07:37 PM): who from your tribe
Deetman91 (6:07:40 PM): do you like the least? lol
Deetman91 (6:07:45 PM): for this challenge lol
Deetman91 (6:07:49 PM): idk who to take from
SunSet141k (6:07:51 PM): travis
SunSet141k (6:07:54 PM): take it from travis
Deetman91 (6:07:54 PM): i dont wanna go right for cory or sadie
Deetman91 (6:07:56 PM): okay
Deetman91 (6:08:20 PM): ill wait it out a bit though probably
SunSet141k (6:08:33 PM): okay what candy you want
SunSet141k (6:08:45 PM): I'll go for the #'s
SunSet141k (6:08:48 PM): lol
Deetman91 (6:09:40 PM): ill go for the X's
SunSet141k (6:09:45 PM): k
SunSet141k (6:14:12 PM): so you picked on cory instead? LOL
Deetman91 (6:15:30 PM): well i thot about it
Deetman91 (6:15:33 PM): and realized that it isn
Deetman91 (6:15:36 PM): picking on
Deetman91 (6:15:37 PM): lol
SunSet141k (6:15:40 PM): true enough
SunSet141k (6:15:43 PM): it's kinda helping lol
Deetman91 (6:15:47 PM): yeah lol
Deetman91 (6:15:53 PM): only that he and cam have been helped in the same way
Deetman91 (6:15:58 PM): so who knows what that'll yield
Deetman91 (6:15:59 PM): lol
SunSet141k (6:16:04 PM): yeah
SunSet141k (6:16:20 PM): but you didn't help cory
SunSet141k (6:16:24 PM): cuz you gave him the one I wanted
SunSet141k (6:16:45 PM): so you made it so I have to take from him lol
SunSet141k (6:16:49 PM): :-P
Deetman91 (6:16:51 PM): hahaha
Deetman91 (6:16:54 PM): right lol
SunSet141k (6:16:58 PM): whereas I could have helped you
SunSet141k (6:17:04 PM): by giving you the X you wanted and taking what I wanted
Deetman91 (6:17:11 PM): ahh thats true
Deetman91 (6:17:23 PM): i just went to be honest, lmfao
Deetman91 (6:17:29 PM): i didn't think about all that
SunSet141k (6:17:34 PM): i told ya what I was taking though :-P
Deetman91 (6:18:03 PM): one second ill brb
Deetman91 (6:19:14 PM): hey back
Deetman91 (6:19:25 PM): yeah i know, i just mean i didn't think about how we could have helped each other there lol
SunSet141k (6:19:31 PM): lol
SunSet141k (6:19:34 PM): it's all good no worries
SunSet141k (6:23:00 PM): are you close with cory?
SunSet141k (6:23:02 PM): I never did ask lol
Deetman91 (6:23:19 PM): well, we've voted together at most of the votes
SunSet141k (6:23:29 PM): how did ben end up out?
Deetman91 (6:23:35 PM): everyone voted him out lol
SunSet141k (6:23:48 PM): oh I heard that ben and cory were close that's why I was confused lol
SunSet141k (6:23:55 PM): you are always so secretive with me lol
Deetman91 (6:24:09 PM): lol
SunSet141k (6:24:16 PM): I feel like you are gonna vote me out!
Deetman91 (6:24:17 PM): no thats definitely not true
Deetman91 (6:24:26 PM): (both the things you said)
SunSet141k (6:24:28 PM): lol
Deetman91 (6:24:30 PM): cory/ben were on different sides
Deetman91 (6:24:37 PM): and ben said he'd be on vacation
Deetman91 (6:24:40 PM): so that was that
SunSet141k (6:24:43 PM): oh i see
SunSet141k (6:24:52 PM): so basically you are telling me you are in an alliance with cory
Deetman91 (6:25:06 PM): eh lol
Deetman91 (6:25:11 PM): idk it kept going many ways
Deetman91 (6:25:25 PM): i really wasn't sure what was gonna happen if we went to the tc of 6
Deetman91 (6:25:48 PM): essentially the bill vote
Deetman91 (6:25:51 PM): was 5-3
Deetman91 (6:25:56 PM): and i voted bill, cory didn't
Deetman91 (6:26:00 PM): but the next vote we voted bill
Deetman91 (6:26:13 PM): so its not really an alliance persay since we haven't been together the whole time as that shows
Deetman91 (6:26:19 PM): but we did agree to it with people
SunSet141k (6:26:22 PM): I can see why cory wouldn't vote bill at first.. they have a mutual dislike of me ;-)
Deetman91 (6:26:35 PM): lol
Deetman91 (6:26:50 PM): then kyle accused me of not voting bill out
SunSet141k (6:26:51 PM): I'm just trying to figure out.. target wise.. *sigh*
Deetman91 (6:26:55 PM): and saying cory kept him
Deetman91 (6:26:59 PM): and that whooole convo is public
Deetman91 (6:27:01 PM): in the other tribe
Deetman91 (6:27:09 PM): cause i posted it, saying that if he wants to look stupid, ill let him
Deetman91 (6:27:10 PM): lmfao
SunSet141k (6:27:13 PM): lol
Deetman91 (6:30:36 PM): i can't remember where i know travis from lol
SunSet141k (6:30:49 PM): he used to play at alt
Deetman91 (6:33:04 PM): ah
Deetman91 (6:33:12 PM): well travis is going to win at this rate
Deetman91 (6:33:12 PM): lol
SunSet141k (6:33:24 PM): he said he's gonna go eat fish tacos
SunSet141k (6:33:30 PM): and he'd be back in an hour
Deetman91 (6:33:34 PM): ah really
Deetman91 (6:33:38 PM): so then one of us could win too
Deetman91 (6:33:41 PM): unless it doesn't take him that long
SunSet141k (6:33:45 PM): lol
SunSet141k (6:33:55 PM): I wish I could win it but you'll beat me unless I screw you up lol
SunSet141k (6:34:07 PM): I just know cory is gonna gun for me.. I can feel it LOL
Deetman91 (6:34:40 PM): well unless one of your tribe would turn on you
Deetman91 (6:34:49 PM): it might be safer for you
Deetman91 (6:34:51 PM): if he did lol
SunSet141k (6:35:14 PM): well as long as you don't vote me than it would at least tie.. I mean I'm not positive about travis
SunSet141k (6:35:17 PM): lol
Deetman91 (6:35:23 PM): ah okay
Deetman91 (6:35:24 PM): well
SunSet141k (6:35:25 PM): I know travis and cory have a history
Deetman91 (6:35:30 PM): if i see he's voting for you
Deetman91 (6:35:32 PM): with them
Deetman91 (6:35:47 PM): i might consider voting with you guys
SunSet141k (6:35:59 PM): you know you like cam!
SunSet141k (6:36:01 PM): :-P
Deetman91 (6:36:02 PM): but id be a big ol ass
Deetman91 (6:36:05 PM): yeah i do like cam lol
SunSet141k (6:36:08 PM): see
SunSet141k (6:36:16 PM): so me you and cam should stick together :-P
Deetman91 (6:36:27 PM): lol
Deetman91 (6:36:46 PM): i need to just think about what's smarter for me in reality
Deetman91 (6:36:55 PM): but i do not want you to leave this game lol
SunSet141k (6:36:57 PM): getting rid of me is smarter for you?
SunSet141k (6:37:03 PM): You know i have your back
SunSet141k (6:37:57 PM): I even had you pretty much as my number one in that other game either though you didn't for me. LOL I mean I had Kyle N (saddam) higher only because I know he doesn't come after me but I wouldnt have went to the end with him because he's always polled as like the favorite lol
Deetman91 (6:38:31 PM): lol
Deetman91 (6:38:44 PM): i just mean as much as you say im vague about my tribes situation
Deetman91 (6:38:47 PM): i know even less about yours
SunSet141k (6:39:03 PM): well we only had one problem
SunSet141k (6:39:05 PM): and that was jonathan
SunSet141k (6:39:07 PM): and he's gone now
SunSet141k (6:39:12 PM): he was trying to allign with everyone
SunSet141k (6:39:14 PM): it was really annoying
Deetman91 (6:39:19 PM): yeah i know
Deetman91 (6:39:19 PM): lol
Deetman91 (6:39:24 PM): he always does that
SunSet141k (6:39:30 PM): and then he was shocked to leave
SunSet141k (6:39:30 PM): LOL
SunSet141k (6:39:48 PM): but otherwise.. my tribe.. didn't really talk often.. lol it's such a weird game for that
Deetman91 (6:40:00 PM): i see
Deetman91 (6:40:01 PM): lol
Deetman91 (6:40:11 PM): well then that's what my point is lol
Deetman91 (6:40:18 PM): you 6 got rid of your biggest problem lol
Deetman91 (6:40:21 PM): now its like
Deetman91 (6:40:25 PM): la-de-da, no problems? lol
SunSet141k (6:40:37 PM): well no I think travis could be a problem if he's close to cory
Deetman91 (6:40:44 PM): note, i really don't want to vote you out, im just thinking what the implications of me goin against my tribe is going to be
Deetman91 (6:40:49 PM): i see
SunSet141k (6:40:53 PM): I understand that
SunSet141k (6:41:07 PM): because voting me out
SunSet141k (6:41:18 PM): doesn't help you, you know I can be more of an asset to your game
SunSet141k (6:41:21 PM): voting me out just helps cory.
Deetman91 (6:41:25 PM): yeah
Deetman91 (6:41:26 PM): okay
Deetman91 (6:41:31 PM): let me test this one out
Deetman91 (6:41:47 PM): what about me, you, sadie, and cam vote travis?
Deetman91 (6:42:05 PM): and if we lose again, i wouldn't let you leave
SunSet141k (6:42:19 PM): who has screwed who over before..
SunSet141k (6:42:35 PM): you really think I feel comfortable doing that.. I've never screwed you over.. you were behind helping me leave before.. that makes me a little uneasy
SunSet141k (6:42:41 PM): especially since I have never even met sadie
Deetman91 (6:43:05 PM): lol ok
Deetman91 (6:43:34 PM): well me doing what your implying is putting a lot of trust into you lol
Deetman91 (6:43:43 PM): and while maybe i haven't earned that trust
Deetman91 (6:43:51 PM): i base who i trust usually on who i know really trusts me
SunSet141k (6:44:17 PM): well it's hard for me to 100% trust you, I haven't had a situation where you have proved I could yet.
Deetman91 (6:44:52 PM): lol, that's because there was that one game a while back where i had a 3way alliance that really wanted you out, and i didn't know you hardly
Deetman91 (6:45:06 PM): then our last two games we both got screwed despite being together by people outside us
SunSet141k (6:45:07 PM): but you saw how loyal I was :-(
Deetman91 (6:45:36 PM): lol
Deetman91 (6:45:39 PM): afterwards yeah
SunSet141k (6:45:42 PM): see!
SunSet141k (6:45:46 PM): at least you know I'm loyal.
Deetman91 (6:45:52 PM): true
Deetman91 (6:46:16 PM): but your lack of trust in me is due to me not trusting you at a time where i didn't know you'd be loyal
Deetman91 (6:46:26 PM): and right now you're saying you can't trust me fully because ive never proved to be loyal either
Deetman91 (6:46:41 PM): so you can't really blame me for that since its your mentality too lol
SunSet141k (6:46:45 PM): I do trust you.. just not 100% YET
Deetman91 (6:46:49 PM): hahaha
Deetman91 (6:46:58 PM): well i just put a whole lot out there lol
Deetman91 (6:47:06 PM): and me offering you us 4 voting him
Deetman91 (6:47:29 PM): is me risking you and cam voting one of us two with those two when they hear we might be targetting travis
SunSet141k (6:47:33 PM): I was excited to see you in this game.. are you gonna make me sad that I was excited for you to be in the game.. I saw we were on the same tribe and I felt that at least I'm safe with you but now you are making me feel like I shouldn't or something lol
Deetman91 (6:47:52 PM): lol
Deetman91 (6:48:06 PM): i told you a way that even if cory targets you
Deetman91 (6:48:11 PM): id try to make sure that you don't go
Deetman91 (6:48:18 PM): i don't know how that's not helping lol
Deetman91 (6:49:20 PM): when i could just stick to cory, and keep it simple
Deetman91 (6:49:26 PM): i told you i don't want to do that lol
SunSet141k (6:50:30 PM): lol I think we get a little wary with each other sometimes because we both know each other are strong players so I think we both have this feeling the other could be playing the other.. even though we're both not lol it's so frustrating
Deetman91 (6:51:11 PM): yeah it is lol
SunSet141k (6:51:38 PM): we need to get over that
SunSet141k (6:51:41 PM): and just work together lol
SunSet141k (6:51:50 PM): cuz going against each other.. I think is just stupid for us to do lol
Deetman91 (6:51:51 PM): i agree lol
Deetman91 (6:52:03 PM): which is why i tried to state a way lol
Deetman91 (6:52:11 PM): that we could have a small group
SunSet141k (6:52:30 PM): dude you need to repost
SunSet141k (6:52:34 PM): you didn't copy it from my last post
Deetman91 (6:54:39 PM): thanks lol
Deetman91 (6:54:41 PM): anyway though
Deetman91 (6:55:00 PM): what is it that you're wanting me to do this round?
SunSet141k (6:55:34 PM): in a perfect world I'd want cory gone. But from the sounds of it, you don't want him gone.
Deetman91 (6:56:13 PM): im thinking i don't know how i could shift that
Deetman91 (6:56:17 PM): for it to work
Deetman91 (6:56:19 PM): and me to feel safe doing that
Deetman91 (6:56:28 PM): what was said made me think
Deetman91 (6:56:32 PM): travis could just tell cory
Deetman91 (6:56:38 PM): and then if im targetting my own tribe
Deetman91 (6:56:44 PM): sadie will be like, no to that
SunSet141k (6:57:26 PM): well I'm not gonna tell anyone you are gonna target your own tribe. But I was talking to travis about how we need to stick together and shit just to see what he says.
SunSet141k (6:57:38 PM): and I have been talking to him about cory because I wanted to see his view on cory
SunSet141k (6:57:48 PM): but I'm not saying anything mean about cory
SunSet141k (6:57:52 PM): just that he doesn't like me
SunSet141k (6:57:53 PM): lol
Deetman91 (6:57:57 PM): lol
Deetman91 (6:58:20 PM): yeah
SunSet141k (6:58:24 PM): and I told travis cory has a past vote
Deetman91 (6:58:41 PM): well that upped the urgency
Deetman91 (6:58:42 PM): lol
SunSet141k (6:58:51 PM): :-P
SunSet141k (6:59:16 PM): although I don't know if I've ever asked Cam his feelings on Cory
SunSet141k (6:59:17 PM): lol
Deetman91 (6:59:43 PM): well
Deetman91 (6:59:46 PM): this is what i will say
Deetman91 (6:59:48 PM): this round
Deetman91 (6:59:52 PM): if im not mistaken
Deetman91 (6:59:55 PM): will become more complicated lol
SunSet141k (7:00:04 PM): um yes
Deetman91 (7:00:09 PM): like
Deetman91 (7:00:10 PM): very lol
SunSet141k (7:00:19 PM): this is why I should just win immunity
SunSet141k (7:00:24 PM): because YOU won't leave at all.
Deetman91 (7:00:30 PM): i dont know that lol
SunSet141k (7:00:35 PM): I know that.
Deetman91 (7:00:39 PM): because as ive pointed out lol
Deetman91 (7:00:45 PM): ive gone back and forth
SunSet141k (7:00:47 PM): I won't vote you
Deetman91 (7:00:51 PM): and i know people on my tribe aren't happy with it
SunSet141k (7:01:23 PM): and I don't think cam would because I wouldn't like that.
Deetman91 (7:01:47 PM): i just am not sure what travis will do
Deetman91 (7:01:48 PM): to save cory
Deetman91 (7:01:53 PM): but i dont want you to go
Deetman91 (7:02:00 PM): and i didn't even think about the past vote aspect
SunSet141k (7:02:08 PM): past votes count
Deetman91 (7:02:12 PM): yeah i know
Deetman91 (7:02:19 PM): i just forgot cory's vote
Deetman91 (7:02:48 PM): what it comes down to
Deetman91 (7:03:00 PM): is from who's tribe goes lol
Deetman91 (7:03:13 PM): because im sure sadie will be for just getting one of you out if it can happen
Deetman91 (7:03:33 PM): what im saying though
Deetman91 (7:03:37 PM): is i think its a better set up
Deetman91 (7:03:39 PM): to go for that
Deetman91 (7:03:43 PM): then to bank on a tie
Deetman91 (7:03:47 PM): and im positive about that
SunSet141k (7:04:03 PM): yeah but then you could just vote out cam next
SunSet141k (7:04:10 PM): and then they could just vote me out next without you having to vote me
Deetman91 (7:04:20 PM): i promise
Deetman91 (7:04:23 PM): im thinking about you and cam
Deetman91 (7:04:24 PM): lol
Deetman91 (7:04:25 PM): ugh
Deetman91 (7:04:29 PM): i just don't want to tell you A LOT
Deetman91 (7:04:29 PM): lol
SunSet141k (7:04:40 PM): why?
Deetman91 (7:04:42 PM): because there is a lot lol
SunSet141k (7:04:44 PM): I'm not gonna use it against you.
Deetman91 (7:04:47 PM): i know
SunSet141k (7:05:07 PM): I only would if I found out you were trying to get ME out
SunSet141k (7:05:11 PM): lol screw everyone else :-P
Deetman91 (7:05:14 PM): lol
Deetman91 (7:05:20 PM): ok
Deetman91 (7:05:23 PM): im gonna go ahead
Deetman91 (7:05:25 PM): and stack a lot on you
SunSet141k (7:05:29 PM): k
Deetman91 (7:05:30 PM): but i want you to really not tell anyone
Deetman91 (7:05:31 PM): lol
Deetman91 (7:05:33 PM): will that form trust?
Deetman91 (7:05:36 PM): if i tell you A LOT lol
SunSet141k (7:05:38 PM): i wont
Deetman91 (7:05:42 PM): cause its preeettty big
Deetman91 (7:05:43 PM): lol
SunSet141k (7:05:46 PM): k
SunSet141k (7:05:50 PM): :-)
Deetman91 (7:05:54 PM): will that be the trust between us then? lol
SunSet141k (7:05:59 PM): yes
Deetman91 (7:06:03 PM): mmk
Deetman91 (7:06:09 PM): in zee elevator
Deetman91 (7:06:18 PM): kyle acquired the power to change tribes whenever he wants
SunSet141k (7:06:39 PM): doesn't HE just switch tribes? or can he actually mix them up
Deetman91 (7:06:52 PM): just switches lol
Deetman91 (7:06:55 PM): but that's big enough
Deetman91 (7:06:57 PM): that puts another person here
Deetman91 (7:07:19 PM): my conversation documents that he got a lot of votes at the 5-3 council
Deetman91 (7:07:31 PM): i think he would jump ship thinking he's being targetted unless he wins immunity
Deetman91 (7:07:50 PM): what im saying is
Deetman91 (7:07:51 PM): over here
SunSet141k (7:07:57 PM): then I do need to win immunity lol
Deetman91 (7:07:58 PM): if we solidify something like travis with sadie
Deetman91 (7:08:00 PM): that's 4
Deetman91 (7:08:03 PM): that's all we need
SunSet141k (7:08:14 PM): but that's only if he jumps ship
SunSet141k (7:08:18 PM): he can't jump shit in the middle of TC
Deetman91 (7:08:27 PM): i really think it is at any time lol
SunSet141k (7:08:33 PM): ship*
Deetman91 (7:08:35 PM): but idk, maybe not
Deetman91 (7:08:43 PM): what im saying is that if we agree with sadie to vote travis
Deetman91 (7:08:46 PM): and have 4 there
Deetman91 (7:08:48 PM): if she's on it with 6
Deetman91 (7:08:52 PM): she'd be on it with 7
Deetman91 (7:08:56 PM): her and kyle were not close
Deetman91 (7:09:01 PM): he wont change her perspective on anything
SunSet141k (7:09:46 PM): yeah but then kyle would be here
SunSet141k (7:09:50 PM): and it would still be messed up
Deetman91 (7:10:02 PM): it wouldn't be lol
Deetman91 (7:10:07 PM): travis is your tribe
Deetman91 (7:10:16 PM): he'd likely be for it
Deetman91 (7:10:23 PM): then at 6
SunSet141k (7:10:29 PM): I'd feel more comfortable doign that if you let me win this immunity lol
Deetman91 (7:10:30 PM): i would vote with you guys
Deetman91 (7:11:12 PM): lol at cory just failing
Deetman91 (7:11:14 PM): at this challenge
Deetman91 (7:11:16 PM): wtf is he doing lol
SunSet141k (7:12:39 PM): wtf LOL I dont' know
SunSet141k (7:13:31 PM): he just fixed it
Deetman91 (7:14:29 PM): yeah that was
Deetman91 (7:14:32 PM): kinda epic fail
SunSet141k (7:16:32 PM): you should let me win :-P
Deetman91 (7:16:41 PM): lol
SunSet141k (7:16:46 PM): forget to post lol
Deetman91 (7:16:54 PM): whyyy lol
SunSet141k (7:17:15 PM): because I wanna win.. in case kyle comes over.. that whole thing makes me so nervous
Deetman91 (7:17:23 PM): but if we just vote travis
Deetman91 (7:17:28 PM): then at 6
Deetman91 (7:17:31 PM): we have numbers to tie it
SunSet141k (7:17:32 PM): they will go after someone from my tribe over their own
Deetman91 (7:17:37 PM): that was my whole reasoning for not wanting to go after cory
SunSet141k (7:17:42 PM): I understand that
SunSet141k (7:18:08 PM): But I'd feel safer with it if I had immunity then I wouldnt' have to worry about travis pulling something outta his ass to take me out with cory and kyle and whoever.. I don't know what travis is like lol
Deetman91 (7:18:44 PM): lol
Deetman91 (7:18:53 PM): but i know sadie wouldn't just vote with that
Deetman91 (7:19:00 PM): and kyle and cory
SunSet141k (7:19:01 PM): she might, she doesn't know me
Deetman91 (7:19:02 PM): dont' get along
Deetman91 (7:20:49 PM): fine
Deetman91 (7:21:06 PM): ill just let you have it
SunSet141k (7:21:13 PM): thank you
Deetman91 (7:21:28 PM): if this is stupid of me though lol
Deetman91 (7:21:33 PM): that'll be a tradgedy
SunSet141k (7:21:43 PM): it is not, you can trust me
Deetman91 (7:21:47 PM): ok
Deetman91 (7:22:12 PM): but i want us to make sure to talk to sadie about just voting travis
Deetman91 (7:22:20 PM): because then the same perdicament is just going to flip to cam
SunSet141k (7:22:20 PM): of course
SunSet141k (7:22:29 PM): what do you mean?
Deetman91 (7:22:38 PM): if we target cory
Deetman91 (7:22:42 PM): and that's what travis is really thinking about
Deetman91 (7:22:51 PM): oh kenya's immune? Fine cory, let's do cam
SunSet141k (7:23:27 PM): but I think cam and travis like each other?
SunSet141k (7:23:40 PM): I dont' know really but I think they probably have talked more? Not sure lol I haven't talked to cam for like days
SunSet141k (7:23:42 PM): since i work all the time
Deetman91 (7:23:54 PM): lmfao
Deetman91 (7:24:04 PM): okay so you don't even have a grasp that cam would actually not vote for
Deetman91 (7:24:07 PM): or vote travis?
SunSet141k (7:25:12 PM): I'm not sure, I just know that cam has my back 100% or did on our old tribe. But I do trust him. That's why I'd rather be safe because I could see him turning on me just to save his own butt. I don't know i've never played with cam before
Deetman91 (7:25:36 PM): lmfao
Deetman91 (7:25:37 PM): wow
Deetman91 (7:25:50 PM): ok
SunSet141k (7:25:58 PM): well only cuz when he got in trouble
SunSet141k (7:26:02 PM): he called me out in werewolf
SunSet141k (7:26:04 PM): when he knew I was a wolf
SunSet141k (7:26:05 PM): lol
Deetman91 (7:26:10 PM): lol
SunSet141k (7:26:11 PM): but didn't call me out till he was in trouble
Deetman91 (7:30:19 PM): im going to go
Deetman91 (7:30:24 PM): when its my turn
Deetman91 (7:30:30 PM): and im not going to move the "@"
SunSet141k (7:30:36 PM): oh by mistake
Deetman91 (7:30:38 PM): over to Sadie's
SunSet141k (7:30:42 PM): k
Deetman91 (7:34:22 PM): ok so just jump in there and do it right from your last post
SunSet141k (7:36:26 PM): did
Deetman91 (7:36:52 PM): yeah
Deetman91 (7:36:54 PM): well congrats lol
SunSet141k (7:37:02 PM): thanks
Deetman91 (7:37:14 PM): i hope you trust me lol
Deetman91 (7:37:22 PM): because that may have been small
Deetman91 (7:37:25 PM): but i really usually don't do that lmfao
SunSet141k (7:37:39 PM): I know you don't do that
SunSet141k (7:37:42 PM): and I really do appreciate it
Deetman91 (7:38:09 PM): and i do trust you
Deetman91 (7:38:15 PM): there's just so many others i don't
Deetman91 (7:53:26 PM): im acting like i dont know i lost
Deetman91 (7:53:28 PM): for now
Deetman91 (7:53:31 PM): lol
SunSet141k (7:53:42 PM): lol
Deetman91 (7:54:54 PM): i wonder how this is gonna shake out now
SunSet141k (7:58:49 PM): gotta go for now, be back later
Deetman91 (7:59:02 PM): ok ttyl
Deetman91 (7:59:04 PM): congrats
Deetman91 signed off at 9:18:01 PM

---That was a long but very important conversation, I wanted to make him trust me.. I wanted to make him feel I trust him. I also can't believe I convinced him to let me win that immunity challenge.. like who convinces someone to let them have immunity LOL! I would say anything to win it seriously.. I know that was hard for Deet to do.. to let me have it but I had to make sure I had it. Because now I can do whatever.. I know I was talking to him about taking out Travis but at the same time I don't know if that's what I even want to do! But I knew I had to say whatever to keep myself safe. There now I'm safe.. now it's just a matter of figuring out what to do from there.. also he ended up giving me all this information, whereas I didn't really give him much information. But that's how I role.. I just give enough information and he did gain more of my trust. He's a difficult person to deal with because he's such a smart player and you have to make him feel comfortable.. you have to make him feel you trust him.. you have to make him feel like you won't screw him over. He can't have any doubt in that or he'll just be against you and that's a bad risk to take! I'm very proud of myself for getting him to give me immunity though!

Conversation with Cory:
survcory (7:15:13 PM): hello kenya
SunSet141k (7:15:19 PM): hey
survcory (7:16:44 PM): i see we are on the same tribe
SunSet141k (7:16:53 PM): I see that too
survcory (7:17:27 PM): is this going to turn into me vs. you or do you think we can past that?
SunSet141k (7:18:20 PM): I don't want it to be me vs you
survcory (7:18:30 PM): me neither
survcory (7:20:59 PM): i like our new tribe :-)
SunSet141k (7:23:06 PM): so do I, I was just wary of you because I feel like you hate me
survcory (7:23:52 PM): i dont hate you... in fact i hated that i kept acting like that towards you... if youve noticed, i stopped the harassing in the forums and stuff. and i noticed you have too
survcory (7:24:00 PM): i think we just needed a break from eachother
survcory (7:24:33 PM): i really dont have anything personal against you
SunSet141k (7:25:41 PM): well that's good, maybe we need a top secret alliance in this game. Because really nobody would expect it at all.
survcory (7:25:59 PM): omgsh.... that would be AMAZING
survcory (7:26:19 PM): just so you know though i told deet (before we talked here) that you may be after me so he better win the challenge lol
survcory (7:26:29 PM): and if we keep that up, no one will expect our alliance
survcory (7:27:00 PM): as long as the targets are not eachother
SunSet141k (7:27:02 PM): and I'm being serious about it.. but yeah don't worry I've made comments to people like I didn't want to play with you because you hate me lol
SunSet141k (7:27:23 PM): well don't screw me up in the challenge :-P
SunSet141k (7:27:39 PM): and I promise I won't vote for you this round.
survcory (7:27:55 PM): if you dont win immunity, i promise i wont vote for you either
survcory (7:28:04 PM): i too am dead serious about this
survcory (7:28:16 PM): how crazy would it be if the 2 of us managed to get to the finals
SunSet141k (7:28:27 PM): that would be crazy
survcory (7:28:33 PM): hahaha and no one knew were aligned
survcory (7:28:39 PM): i am excited for the potential
SunSet141k (7:28:48 PM): so am I
survcory (7:29:02 PM): *shakes hand* to a new us
SunSet141k (7:30:04 PM): yes :-)
survcory (7:30:29 PM): this will be great... i have an awesome feeling about this :-)
survcory (7:32:15 PM): if i take out deet with my next post, will you let me ride the glass elevator (since you are going to win?)
survcory (7:32:18 PM): hahaha
SunSet141k (7:32:35 PM): how could you take him out?
SunSet141k (7:32:40 PM): like take away one of his X's?
survcory (7:32:44 PM): yes
survcory (7:32:51 PM): if he posts before i do, he wins
survcory (7:32:56 PM): if not then you win
SunSet141k (7:33:06 PM): i never thought you'd help me win lol
survcory (7:33:23 PM): if i get to ride the elevator :-)
survcory (7:33:30 PM): and it would prove my loyalty
SunSet141k (7:33:38 PM): but would it give away our secret alliance? lol
survcory (7:33:47 PM): oh true lol
survcory (7:34:08 PM): damn it!
survcory (7:34:15 PM): he got to it before i did
survcory (7:34:18 PM): lol
survcory (7:34:25 PM): he won.
survcory (7:34:28 PM): sorry :-(
SunSet141k (7:34:50 PM): no he didn't he messed up
SunSet141k (7:35:07 PM): he didn't put the candy back on sadies
survcory (7:35:27 PM): does it matter?
SunSet141k (7:35:32 PM): yes
SunSet141k (7:35:41 PM): doug made a post about that
SunSet141k (7:35:46 PM): if you forget any pieces it doesn't count
survcory (7:36:49 PM): oh i see
survcory (7:36:52 PM): well then congrats!
survcory (7:36:54 PM): :-)
SunSet141k (7:36:57 PM): thanks
survcory (7:37:22 PM): hmmm... does the glass elevator person win go to tc?
SunSet141k (7:37:54 PM): no idea
survcory (7:38:03 PM): cause if not you can say its strategy to send me so that you have majority to vote out one of the others from my old previous tribe
survcory (7:39:18 PM): (maybe i shouldnt tell you that?)
survcory (7:39:19 PM): lol
survcory (7:39:22 PM): ;-)
SunSet141k (7:39:33 PM): tell me what?
survcory (7:39:50 PM): that its smart to send me to the elevator and vote out one of my previous tribe members haha
SunSet141k (7:40:29 PM): oooh i get it (I'll be slow at responding going to help my boyfriend with something)
survcory (7:40:38 PM): kk np
survcory (7:40:49 PM): i just checked with doug... glass elevator person DOES go to tc
SunSet141k (7:41:57 PM): k
SunSet141k (7:58:59 PM): gotta go for now be back later
survcory signed off at 8:39:13 PM

---Now this conversation was a big shocker I know.. as for the truth behind it.. I'm not sure.. I always felt it was possible to make a secret alliance with him. Which it seems to be possible.. do I think he's being honest with it.. of course not. I'm not even sure if I'm being honest with it LOL! BUT I had to do whatever to get that immunity.. and if that meant making a promise that I may break so be it. I'm not fully commited to anything that I said to anyone. The only commitment I truly have is not voting for Cam. I also feel I need to honor not voting for Deet as well. But otherwise.. everyone else is fair game. But seriously though it was fun making this deal with Cory.. but he must be smoking something real good if he thought I'd send him to go on the elevator LOL does he think I'm that much of a moron!? Apparently..


Conversation with Cam:
SunSet141k (6:14:19 PM): you there?
Dogdude84 (9:18:07 PM): hey
Dogdude84 (9:18:09 PM): just got home
SunSet141k (9:54:36 PM): Hey Cam!
Dogdude84 (9:54:45 PM): heya :-P
Dogdude84 (9:54:49 PM): we're still together <3
SunSet141k (9:55:05 PM): yes we are
SunSet141k (9:55:16 PM): so um I did whatever I could to make sure I won that challenge LOL
Dogdude84 (9:55:40 PM): i don't care if i got candy taken lol. i wasn't around
SunSet141k (9:55:51 PM): lol oh that's not what I was talking about lol
SunSet141k (9:55:54 PM): I just felt I had to win it
Dogdude84 (9:55:58 PM): oh
SunSet141k (9:55:58 PM): lol
SunSet141k (9:56:09 PM): and now I have to decide who to send to the glass elevator
Dogdude84 (9:56:17 PM): send meeeeeeee :-D
SunSet141k (9:56:35 PM): lol my problem is whether that will just have people being like OMG ALLIANCE
SunSet141k (9:56:39 PM): and try to vote you out for that reason
Dogdude84 (9:57:01 PM): i talked to deet briefly before he left
Dogdude84 (9:57:16 PM): he said you two talked, and he wants a 3-way
Dogdude84 (9:57:57 PM): said you guys have been in past games, and that you like me, etc
SunSet141k (9:58:04 PM): lol yes
SunSet141k (9:58:51 PM): I also went on about how I didn't know if I could trust ya because I have never played with you, but that I do trust you. It's just I don't know you game wise very well.. I mainly did this to not make mine and your friendship sound threatening lol
Dogdude84 (9:59:09 PM): rofl
Dogdude84 (9:59:11 PM): that's cool
Dogdude84 (9:59:12 PM): and well played
SunSet141k (9:59:29 PM): dude.. like I feel like I just made up a bunch of shit
SunSet141k (9:59:32 PM): to make sure I won lol
SunSet141k (9:59:38 PM): lol
Dogdude84 (9:59:53 PM): made stuff up?
SunSet141k (10:00:00 PM): well just made promises
Dogdude84 (10:00:02 PM): how would that help you win a posting challenge lol
Dogdude84 (10:00:04 PM): ohhhhh ok
SunSet141k (10:00:04 PM): like oh yeah I won't vote for you
SunSet141k (10:00:06 PM): and shit like that
Dogdude84 (10:00:08 PM): i gotcha
Dogdude84 (10:00:12 PM): that's dangerous :X
SunSet141k (10:00:17 PM): or yeah I'll do this only if you give me immunity LOL
Dogdude84 (10:00:22 PM): hahaha
SunSet141k (10:00:28 PM): but what I wanted to know from you
SunSet141k (10:00:31 PM): is your relationship with travis
SunSet141k (10:00:36 PM): is it strong?
SunSet141k (10:00:45 PM): because like we went on about sticking together and shit
Dogdude84 (10:00:55 PM): you and travis?
SunSet141k (10:01:01 PM): yeah
SunSet141k (10:01:21 PM): like my win.. was totally strategical
SunSet141k (10:01:25 PM): I worked on Deet for an hour lol
SunSet141k (10:01:31 PM): actually like 2 hours
SunSet141k (10:01:32 PM): lol
Dogdude84 (10:01:40 PM): well, I feel like with travis, i had a strong relationship with him in the past, but it doesn't feel like it's there anymore
SunSet141k (10:01:58 PM): I feel like he says the same things to everyone
SunSet141k (10:03:28 PM): that's what makes it tough with him
Dogdude84 (10:03:40 PM): it's weird, like i don't talk to him in this game as much as i would want to
SunSet141k (10:03:48 PM): yeah I know what you mean
SunSet141k (10:03:53 PM): mind you we haven't spoken since like
SunSet141k (10:03:54 PM): the start
SunSet141k (10:03:55 PM): LOL
SunSet141k (10:03:59 PM): but I just felt you wouldn't screw me over
SunSet141k (10:04:03 PM): since I'm not a werewolf LOL
Dogdude84 (10:04:28 PM): lol we're just always on at different times unfortunately
Dogdude84 (10:04:36 PM): i'm not a "late night" person anymore, unless it's the weekend
Dogdude84 (10:04:59 PM): but yeah, you/me/brant/bryan all the way
SunSet141k (10:05:00 PM): well good we have tons of time to figure things out tonight lol
SunSet141k (10:05:14 PM): so I'm gonna fill you in on what's going on
Dogdude84 (10:05:18 PM): alrighty
SunSet141k (10:05:25 PM): just dont' repeat it to anyone lol
Dogdude84 (10:05:26 PM): i'm not a target am i? LOL
SunSet141k (10:05:29 PM): no!
SunSet141k (10:05:30 PM): lol
SunSet141k (10:05:44 PM): so anyway when Bryan went on the elevator the item was already taken
SunSet141k (10:06:01 PM): and the item that it was.. is the ability to switch tribes.. like get up and go to the other tribe.
SunSet141k (10:06:06 PM): well Kyle has that ability
Dogdude84 (10:06:22 PM): oh wow crazy
SunSet141k (10:06:26 PM): so if he feels unsafe on the other tribe.. he could easily up and move to ours.
Dogdude84 (10:06:29 PM): how do we know kyle has that?
SunSet141k (10:06:36 PM): well first because deet told me
SunSet141k (10:06:41 PM): second because brant and bryan figured it out
SunSet141k (10:06:46 PM): by who all went on the elevator
SunSet141k (10:07:51 PM): so deet wanted to get me you him and sadie to vote out travis
Dogdude84 (10:07:53 PM): i'm not turning on you, but yeah i get paranoid too haha
SunSet141k (10:07:56 PM): and I'm like wtf?
SunSet141k (10:08:06 PM): yes so if you hear rumors and shit.. please ask me.. cuz people make shit up lol
Dogdude84 (10:08:13 PM): rofl
SunSet141k (10:08:14 PM): and I don't want you to vote me out based on something you THINK might be true
SunSet141k (10:08:14 PM): lol
Dogdude84 (10:08:35 PM): yeah don't worry about that at all
SunSet141k (10:08:36 PM): and he's all and I'll keep you safe
SunSet141k (10:08:41 PM): and I'm like that doesn't make me feel safe
SunSet141k (10:08:51 PM): and I told him that I'd feel more safe doing that if I had immunity
SunSet141k (10:09:01 PM): because of mine and cory's dislike of each other
SunSet141k (10:09:12 PM): and during this convo with deet
SunSet141k (10:09:17 PM): I was making sure travis was still with us for sure
SunSet141k (10:09:19 PM): lol
SunSet141k (10:09:24 PM): then cory randomly comes on
SunSet141k (10:09:27 PM): so we talk a little
SunSet141k (10:09:44 PM): and I tell him if he doesn't screw up the challenge for me that I wouldn't vote him lol
SunSet141k (10:09:55 PM): and so deet basically gave me the win..
SunSet141k (10:10:00 PM): he screwed up on purpose
Dogdude84 (10:10:22 PM): oh i thought that was a bit odd, i was like...wait didn't deet win?
Dogdude84 (10:10:35 PM): (wanted you to win of course lol)
SunSet141k (10:10:35 PM): well the host said if you forget to replace a piece
SunSet141k (10:10:41 PM): it doesn't count
Dogdude84 (10:10:43 PM): ah
SunSet141k (10:10:50 PM): and so he purposely didn't put the piece back on sadie's lol
Dogdude84 (10:10:54 PM): rofl
Dogdude84 (10:10:57 PM): tricksy
SunSet141k (10:10:59 PM): but obviously don't say anything about that
Dogdude84 (10:11:03 PM): i wont
Dogdude84 (10:11:33 PM): so wait, if the prize was already taken, what's the point of the elevator?
SunSet141k (10:11:42 PM): theres 5 prizes
Dogdude84 (10:11:45 PM): oih
Dogdude84 (10:11:47 PM): oh8
Dogdude84 (10:11:49 PM): eff
Dogdude84 (10:11:50 PM): oh*
Dogdude84 (10:13:29 PM): oh so you send someone, and don't get to go yourself?
SunSet141k (10:13:40 PM): yeah
SunSet141k (10:13:44 PM): lame I know
SunSet141k (10:13:44 PM): lol
Dogdude84 (10:13:45 PM): ah darn
SunSet141k (10:14:40 PM): my problem is if I were to send deet it's an excuse that he was close to winning so I thought I'd be nice and let him have it or something lol
Dogdude84 (10:15:30 PM): yeah, i just don't want to give deet anything he can use on us down the road
Dogdude84 (10:15:46 PM): once he turns against us, which he will lol
SunSet141k (10:15:53 PM): oh you are right
SunSet141k (10:16:00 PM): plus I was just thinking if you won like an idol or something
SunSet141k (10:16:04 PM): how it could help us on this tribe
SunSet141k (10:16:09 PM): if deet does go fishy on us lol
Dogdude84 (10:16:35 PM): yep, plus if we really do vote out travis, which i'm not too keen on, we'd need all the help we can get
Dogdude84 (10:16:42 PM): because next tribal they could just boot one of us
SunSet141k (10:16:47 PM): i'll just tell deet if he asks why I sent you is because I wanted to show I still trust you lol
Dogdude84 (10:16:56 PM): yeah that works
Dogdude84 (10:17:22 PM): we must be merging soon too, we'll be at 10 after these votes
SunSet141k (10:18:21 PM): oh good point
SunSet141k (10:18:36 PM): with deet it's hard sometimes to talk to him because he's such a smart player
Dogdude84 (10:18:42 PM): yah
SunSet141k (10:18:45 PM): so it's like trying to not sound like you would go after him
SunSet141k (10:19:19 PM): I don't want to vote out travis either
Dogdude84 (10:19:23 PM): yah
SunSet141k (10:19:24 PM): like that idea annoys me to no end
Dogdude84 (10:19:26 PM): i don't like that
SunSet141k (10:19:33 PM): BUT
SunSet141k (10:19:37 PM): cory has a past vote too
Dogdude84 (10:19:58 PM): oh nice
Dogdude84 (10:20:01 PM): so a tie, he goes
SunSet141k (10:20:11 PM): but travis has a past vote too I think
Dogdude84 (10:20:18 PM): does he?
SunSet141k (10:20:23 PM): I think?
SunSet141k (10:20:27 PM): travis was saying he does lol
Dogdude84 (10:20:30 PM): ah
SunSet141k (10:20:37 PM): BUT the fact that deet wants like a 4 way with me you and sadie
SunSet141k (10:20:39 PM): makes me feel like
SunSet141k (10:20:42 PM): cory wouldn't be included in that vote
SunSet141k (10:20:46 PM): so I dont' know who cory would vote
SunSet141k (10:20:57 PM): so we could almost trick them if we needed too.. although it would piss of deet lol
SunSet141k (10:21:00 PM): off*
Dogdude84 (10:21:06 PM): hahaha
SunSet141k (10:23:00 PM): yeah so you can see the mess I put myself in lol
SunSet141k (10:23:10 PM): but deet likes you
Dogdude84 (10:24:10 PM): i wonder if the other side will go 3-3 on their vote
SunSet141k (10:24:39 PM): it's possible
Dogdude84 (10:25:31 PM): ugh this is a difficult round
Dogdude84 (10:25:35 PM): it's been easy so far lol
SunSet141k (10:26:14 PM): yeah it is difficult
SunSet141k (10:26:17 PM): you and I have to decide what to do
SunSet141k (10:26:28 PM): I think we actually have.. 3 possibilities LOL
SunSet141k (10:27:21 PM): voting with travis.. and possibly having deet on board with it, not sure on that one. Voting with deet and sadie for travis (which is honestly dumb in my eyes) or possibly getting cory to vote with us and maybe just voting out sadie if he'd go that way
SunSet141k (10:27:32 PM): which I think travis would vote with us either way..
SunSet141k (10:27:35 PM): at least he acts like he will
Dogdude84 (10:27:52 PM): maybe even take out deet pre-merge? LOL
Dogdude84 (10:28:00 PM): if we got cory on board
Dogdude84 (10:28:08 PM): telling him that sadie and deet are tight
SunSet141k (10:28:12 PM): LOL I'm not that evil.. I can't vote deet after he let me win.. that's horrible lol
Dogdude84 (10:28:21 PM): lmfaooooooo
SunSet141k (10:28:26 PM): plus after I made him tell me information
SunSet141k (10:28:29 PM): that could screw his game
SunSet141k (10:28:37 PM): like he's trusting me with it
SunSet141k (10:28:39 PM): lol
Dogdude84 (10:29:24 PM): i think it would be hilarious to burn deet, but i'd be fine with booting sadie haha
SunSet141k (10:29:45 PM): what do you think is our BEST move.. I mean I don't really trust cory either. But yeah I don't know what to do.
SunSet141k (10:30:14 PM): oh and the reason I want deet to stay as well is Pete wants him out
Dogdude84 (10:30:14 PM): yeah i haven't talked with cory yet, so i'd like to gauge where he's at first
SunSet141k (10:30:19 PM): so I want that tension to be in the game later
SunSet141k (10:30:30 PM): cuz it keeps the focus off our alliance
Dogdude84 (10:30:31 PM): oh good call
Dogdude84 (10:30:36 PM): mhm
SunSet141k (10:30:56 PM): :-)
SunSet141k (10:31:11 PM): I don't like that travis wrote that I proved myself or whatever when I won that challenge
SunSet141k (10:31:13 PM): it's like STFU
SunSet141k (10:31:14 PM): lol
Dogdude84 (10:31:17 PM): i think once we make merge, and travis is (hopefully) still with us, we can just cruise to F5, F4, etc
SunSet141k (10:31:23 PM): all I proved is I'm an amazing social player..
SunSet141k (10:31:29 PM): I talked my way into winning lol
Dogdude84 (10:31:43 PM): lol travis wrote that? silly boy
SunSet141k (10:31:50 PM): lol yeah he did
SunSet141k (10:31:52 PM): he's crazy
SunSet141k (10:31:56 PM): so many people want me to send them
SunSet141k (10:32:01 PM): to the elevator
Dogdude84 (10:32:29 PM): just send me lol. it's not suspicious because we were on the same tribe
Dogdude84 (10:32:42 PM): plus we gotta keep the good stuff among us
SunSet141k (10:33:05 PM): lol
SunSet141k (10:33:10 PM): well yeah of course I want to send you!
SunSet141k (10:33:14 PM): it has to be kept in the family hahaha
Dogdude84 (10:33:16 PM): but i mean ultimately it's up to you, so do whatever you feel is best
Dogdude84 (10:33:47 PM): (but give it to me)
Dogdude84 (10:33:48 PM): :-P
SunSet141k (10:35:05 PM): did you pick 6 because it was an even number?
Dogdude84 (10:36:01 PM): no lol. i thought it would have something to do with the challenge, and that no one would pick 6 because it was the last number, but that doug would make it a good prize trying to outsmart us
SunSet141k (10:36:22 PM): oh I figured people wouldn't pick 1 because 1 is usually bad LOL
SunSet141k (10:36:35 PM): I picked 4 because I was mad that Travis took 2.. which is the number I wanted lol
Dogdude84 (10:36:42 PM): hahha
SunSet141k (10:36:44 PM): so I had to pick the next even number
SunSet141k (10:36:45 PM): lol
Dogdude84 (10:36:48 PM): :-P
Dogdude84 (10:37:05 PM): yeah i had a feeling we would shuffle, but i didn't know the numbers would do it
SunSet141k (10:37:48 PM): i thought we'd have a challenge
SunSet141k (10:37:51 PM): and the "team" that won
SunSet141k (10:37:55 PM): would get to pick new tribes
SunSet141k (10:38:03 PM): alternating their picking from other tribe to old tribe and what not
Dogdude84 (10:38:15 PM): ah, a good theory for usre
Dogdude84 (10:38:16 PM): sure*
Dogdude84 (10:38:32 PM): ugh, i had a single burger for dinner
Dogdude84 (10:38:35 PM): cam is hungry
SunSet141k (10:38:46 PM): hehe
SunSet141k (10:38:52 PM): Cam is silly too
Dogdude84 (10:38:56 PM): lol
SunSet141k (10:39:38 PM): :-)
SunSet141k (10:39:44 PM): and Cam is my fav cuz he loves dogs too <3
Dogdude84 (10:40:39 PM): YAY! hehehe
SunSet141k (10:41:06 PM): we can have a dog farm k?
Dogdude84 (10:41:21 PM): yes please
Dogdude84 (10:41:27 PM): but farming dogs sounds weird
SunSet141k (10:41:37 PM): well just have tons and tons of dogs
SunSet141k (10:41:41 PM): :-)
Dogdude84 (10:41:46 PM): wheeee!!
SunSet141k (10:42:19 PM): and we'll name one cam and I'll kick it everyday.. LOL JK!
Dogdude84 (10:42:57 PM): D:
Dogdude84 (10:43:00 PM): i would cry lol
SunSet141k (10:43:15 PM): I'd never harm a dog.. 4 legged or 2..
Dogdude84 (10:43:29 PM): hehe aww <3
SunSet141k (10:43:51 PM): you realize I just called you a dog right? lol
Dogdude84 (10:44:25 PM): yes i did lol, but i thought you were playing off my sn :-P
SunSet141k (10:44:52 PM): LOL!
SunSet141k (10:44:56 PM): okay you keep thinking that ;-)
Dogdude84 (10:45:10 PM): hahaha
SunSet141k (10:46:04 PM): *sigh*
SunSet141k (10:46:11 PM): how we gonna decide what to do?
Dogdude84 (10:46:26 PM): bleh idk
SunSet141k (10:46:29 PM): I've never talked to sadie
Dogdude84 (10:46:39 PM): me either
Dogdude84 (10:46:45 PM): i think we need to sleep on it
Dogdude84 (10:46:53 PM): speak to cory tomorroy, sadie too if she's on
Dogdude84 (10:47:01 PM): tomorrow*
SunSet141k (10:47:39 PM): yeah but I work tomorrow so I'd only get to talk to them in the morning if they are on before I go to work but I guess you can feel around and talk to them too and just see where their heads are at
Dogdude84 (10:47:55 PM): oh i gotcha
Dogdude84 (10:48:11 PM): yeah i'll be around all day tomorrow
Dogdude84 (10:48:25 PM): and i'll PM you with info and stuff that i find out
Dogdude84 (10:48:48 PM): votes will probably be due monday night since our challenge was supposed to be done sunday night
SunSet141k (10:48:49 PM): awesome :-)
Dogdude84 (10:49:19 PM): even tuesday night maybe if he takes a day or w/e to post our TC info
Dogdude84 (10:49:25 PM): but idk
Dogdude84 (10:49:35 PM): brb
SunSet141k (10:50:06 PM): k
SunSet141k (10:53:11 PM): omg I have the perfect reason!
Dogdude84 (10:56:31 PM): back
Dogdude84 (10:56:34 PM): lol what is it?
SunSet141k (10:57:25 PM): my reason for sending you is paying you back for picking me first
SunSet141k (10:57:29 PM): in the tribe pick em
SunSet141k (10:57:30 PM): lol
SunSet141k (10:58:05 PM): that's what I wrote in that thread anyway
Dogdude84 (10:58:12 PM): NICE!
Dogdude84 (10:58:19 PM): yeah that's a good one lol
Dogdude84 (10:59:12 PM): awesome just saw your post
SunSet141k (10:59:42 PM): :-)
SunSet141k (11:10:47 PM): I guess it's also an option to take out deet but I'd rather not LOL
Dogdude84 (11:11:31 PM): yah lol, just another thing to think about i suppose
SunSet141k (11:14:10 PM): always good to have options!
SunSet141k (11:14:18 PM): and I'm so glad that jonathan is gone LOL
Dogdude84 (11:14:31 PM): yeah especially before a shuffle

---Filled my doggy friend up on the happenings.. we have some decisions to make of what to do but we also have to be very careful how we appoarch this. I feel we need to do whatever has the least amount of backlash.. but the best strategical move for us.. well for me. But I am still for my solid alliance.. I just hope we can all stay in the game this round!

The thought of burning Deet is a crazy one.. because a part of me sees a deja vue where he did it to me.. and it's actually a very similar situation that I'm in right now but reversed since he was the one that screwed me. He wouldn't see it coming but I don't think I could do it but it's still a possible option.. if I need to go down that road, I totally will. I just hope I don't need to go down it. I don't know which way I want to go.. I guess it will depend on what Cory and Sadie are leaning towards. Because if they have some good ideas.. I might do one of them. But I'd personally prefer Cory or Sadie to leave this round.

So much craziness.. same shit different day!

I've been talking to Deet again and I feel I have a problem.. he's very into his idea of voting out Travis.. and it's starting to make me wonder.. how close his relationship to Sadie and Cory.. it really is. *sigh* I'm so undecided of what to do.. here is the conversation.

Conversation with Deet:
SunSet141k (12:28:01 AM): hi :-)
Deetman91 (12:39:08 AM): hey
SunSet141k (12:39:12 AM): how you
Deetman91 (12:39:20 AM): im good, how are you?
SunSet141k (12:39:24 AM): i'm good too
Deetman91 (12:40:26 AM): so, i talked to cam
Deetman91 (12:40:32 AM): and he said that he would be up for voting together
Deetman91 (12:40:37 AM): with you
Deetman91 (12:40:37 AM): and me
Deetman91 (12:40:42 AM): but we didn't get more specific than that
SunSet141k (12:40:57 AM): oh yeah
SunSet141k (12:41:00 AM): I talked to him for a bit
Deetman91 (12:42:22 AM): ah, cool
Deetman91 (12:42:26 AM): anyway
Deetman91 (12:42:32 AM): cory was saying that he actually
Deetman91 (12:42:35 AM): is closer to cam
Deetman91 (12:42:38 AM): than to travis
Deetman91 (12:42:50 AM): or feels he knows him more
Deetman91 (12:42:58 AM): and i was like, ah, so you're thinking its better to vote travis?
Deetman91 (12:43:00 AM): and he was like, yeah
SunSet141k (12:43:16 AM): hmm interesting
Deetman91 (12:43:19 AM): yeah
Deetman91 (12:43:21 AM): so im thinking
Deetman91 (12:43:24 AM): if kyle comes here
Deetman91 (12:43:26 AM): or not
Deetman91 (12:43:30 AM): travis can go now
Deetman91 (12:43:38 AM): and then if we don't merge from there, and go once again
Deetman91 (12:43:43 AM): me, you, cam of course
Deetman91 (12:43:50 AM): can do the deed you so much want to do
Deetman91 (12:44:22 AM): either way you're safe though
Deetman91 (12:44:36 AM): so yay, and i guess cory is more interesting in travis after you, which is just perfect
Deetman91 (12:59:32 AM): so is anything on your mind?
SunSet141k (12:59:52 AM): tons
SunSet141k (12:59:57 AM): just processing
SunSet141k (1:00:05 AM): analyzing
Deetman91 (1:00:16 AM): ok
Deetman91 (1:02:33 AM): well this is good right? lol
SunSet141k (1:02:56 AM): well theres just many possible things that could happen lol
Deetman91 (1:03:49 AM): lol
Deetman91 (1:03:57 AM): what are you thinking might happen? lol
Deetman91 (1:05:00 AM): were you getting weird vibes from Cam or something?
SunSet141k (1:05:09 AM): no
SunSet141k (1:05:11 AM): cam is fine
Deetman91 (1:05:20 AM): oh okay good lol
SunSet141k (1:07:00 AM): it's just
SunSet141k (1:07:07 AM): if travis and cory aren't close
SunSet141k (1:07:10 AM): than why is travis a threat
SunSet141k (1:07:12 AM): lol
Deetman91 (1:08:39 AM): he's just a person to make sure is the vote in the event kyle comes over
SunSet141k (1:08:51 AM): well if kyle comes over
SunSet141k (1:08:54 AM): it will say he has come over
SunSet141k (1:08:59 AM): and we can change our votes till the deadline
SunSet141k (1:09:06 AM): so what is up with the whole IF he comes over
SunSet141k (1:09:09 AM): I mean if he does
SunSet141k (1:09:12 AM): than yeah vote out travis
SunSet141k (1:09:13 AM): but if he doesn't
SunSet141k (1:09:17 AM): why does it still have to be travis
Deetman91 (1:09:27 AM): i thought that was who we said it was going to be lol
Deetman91 (1:09:28 AM): with sadie
SunSet141k (1:09:36 AM): I've never even talked to sadie lol
Deetman91 (1:09:46 AM): i mean, i thought that's what we were talking about
SunSet141k (1:09:48 AM): like why does she get a free pass?
Deetman91 (1:09:50 AM): i tell sadie to vot travis
Deetman91 (1:09:51 AM): you tell cam
Deetman91 (1:09:56 AM): we make sure it works out
Deetman91 (1:10:02 AM): that even if those 2 are secretly together
SunSet141k (1:10:03 AM): I know it is but we never like decided for sure we were still talking about it!
Deetman91 (1:10:04 AM): its set
Deetman91 (1:10:11 AM): ah okay
SunSet141k (1:10:34 AM): and if cam and cory are actually close..
SunSet141k (1:10:39 AM): that's not a good thing either lol
SunSet141k (1:10:45 AM): that's worse than travis and cory being close
Deetman91 (1:11:17 AM): yeah i know
Deetman91 (1:11:31 AM): but if they don't have a problem getting travis out with this in motion
Deetman91 (1:11:34 AM): if we try to change that
Deetman91 (1:11:41 AM): one of them might not like it if they actually are that close
Deetman91 (1:11:50 AM): and then try to get travis on board with something
Deetman91 (1:11:58 AM): and then once again, sadie is going to be mad if im targetting my own tribe
SunSet141k (1:11:59 AM): and do what
SunSet141k (1:12:13 AM): well they aren't your own tribe now
SunSet141k (1:12:16 AM): we're a new tribe :-P
Deetman91 (1:12:19 AM): lol
Deetman91 (1:12:26 AM): you know what i mean
SunSet141k (1:12:37 AM): and it just looks as bad if I vote out one of my former tribe
SunSet141k (1:12:44 AM): it could look like I can't be trusted
Deetman91 (1:12:49 AM): yeah i know lol, but the point is your safe
SunSet141k (1:12:50 AM): cuz I voted out someone from my own tribe
SunSet141k (1:12:53 AM): I mean seriously it's the same thing.
Deetman91 (1:13:00 AM): so i wanted us to just go on board with something thats happening
Deetman91 (1:13:06 AM): and people would be okay with
Deetman91 (1:13:09 AM): to make sure
SunSet141k (1:13:10 AM): who is okay with it
Deetman91 (1:13:11 AM): things dont flip
SunSet141k (1:13:15 AM): you and cory.
SunSet141k (1:13:22 AM): I never said i was okay with it lol
Deetman91 (1:13:27 AM): sadie is going to be okay with getting out someone on the other tribe
Deetman91 (1:13:33 AM): and if we did it that's 4
Deetman91 (1:13:40 AM): i meant other people lol
Deetman91 (1:13:49 AM): i thot we were just making sure the other is okay
Deetman91 (1:13:56 AM): since this is such a risky situation lol
SunSet141k (1:14:06 AM): nobody is gonna vote you
SunSet141k (1:14:17 AM): unless I like go crazy or something lol
Deetman91 (1:14:27 AM): lol
Deetman91 (1:14:33 AM): if cam really is with cory
Deetman91 (1:14:37 AM): and i say im gonna vote cory
Deetman91 (1:14:49 AM): and cory really is remotely close with travis who i was talking about targetting too
Deetman91 (1:14:57 AM): and then sadie hears im targetting cory
SunSet141k (1:15:08 AM): if you were gonna vote cory
SunSet141k (1:15:11 AM): nobody would know
SunSet141k (1:15:23 AM): because in travis and cam's eyes
SunSet141k (1:15:26 AM): it would be tying
SunSet141k (1:15:29 AM): lol
Deetman91 (1:15:44 AM): the point is, i thot we were working under the fear cam might be with cory?
SunSet141k (1:15:59 AM): You just randomly got told by cory that he feels close to cam
SunSet141k (1:16:02 AM): lol
SunSet141k (1:16:14 AM): so we were not originally working under that assumption
SunSet141k (1:16:20 AM): we were thinking travis and cory were close
SunSet141k (1:16:23 AM): so one of them had to leave
SunSet141k (1:16:29 AM): now it looks like cory and cam could be close
SunSet141k (1:16:33 AM): so why is travis going?
Deetman91 (1:16:58 AM): because we would be able to just make sure someone goes
Deetman91 (1:17:07 AM): the equivalent in this new situation would be us voting cam out
Deetman91 (1:17:11 AM): and i know you don't want to do that
SunSet141k (1:17:18 AM): no it wouldn't
SunSet141k (1:17:23 AM): we could vote out cory
SunSet141k (1:17:38 AM): or sadie lol
Deetman91 (1:17:42 AM): lol, i thot the point here was that the person making the move
SunSet141k (1:17:42 AM): or you.. jk
Deetman91 (1:17:46 AM): was going to have immunity
Deetman91 (1:17:53 AM): to be safe
Deetman91 (1:18:05 AM): i was telling you if i was gonna vote cory id feel unsafe saying it or doing it
SunSet141k (1:18:25 AM): you wouldn't do it even if you were immune.
SunSet141k (1:18:32 AM): so what says you will do it later
Deetman91 (1:19:06 AM): lol, the fact im telling you i would do it if we're in these same tribes next round
Deetman91 (1:19:08 AM): and travis is gone
SunSet141k (1:19:18 AM): yeah but then it won't happen.
Deetman91 (1:19:24 AM): why not?
SunSet141k (1:19:40 AM): because if cam and cory are together
SunSet141k (1:19:53 AM): we left that possibility
Deetman91 (1:19:55 AM): yeah, lol, but that's why i don't want to get cory out now
Deetman91 (1:20:02 AM): because they might be
SunSet141k (1:20:12 AM): well cam doesn't really want to vote out travis
Deetman91 (1:20:27 AM): i see
Deetman91 (1:20:29 AM): so potentially
Deetman91 (1:20:35 AM): all 3 of them could be together you think?
SunSet141k (1:20:43 AM): I mean he'll do it if that's what I wanna do but I know he doesn't like the idea.
Deetman91 (1:21:03 AM): oook
SunSet141k (1:21:16 AM): the reason he doesn't like the idea is he feels you all will just pick us off after travis is gone.
Deetman91 (1:21:31 AM): okay, so he doesn't trust cory then lol
SunSet141k (1:21:49 AM): well after how much shit I've talked about cory..
SunSet141k (1:21:51 AM): like the whole game
SunSet141k (1:22:11 AM): I doubt anyone that's had to deal with me.. does.
SunSet141k (1:22:15 AM): lol
Deetman91 (1:22:21 AM): lol
Deetman91 (1:22:46 AM): okay, well what im essentially vibing is after giving up immunity, lol, to make sure your safe no matter what you do or people want
Deetman91 (1:22:54 AM): you want me to now vote off people from my own tribe
Deetman91 (1:23:03 AM): old*
SunSet141k (1:23:16 AM): I'm speculating the different angles, I'm not saying lets do that for sure
SunSet141k (1:23:20 AM): about anything
SunSet141k (1:23:36 AM): I'm not saying I WON"T VOTE THIS PERSON OR THIS PERSON OR THIS PERSON
SunSet141k (1:23:47 AM): although this round I won't vote you or cam. Everyone else is fair game
SunSet141k (1:24:05 AM): but it's a matter of figuring out which person is the wisest to vote out. That's the part that I can't seem to figure out.
Deetman91 (1:24:19 AM): lol
Deetman91 (1:24:28 AM): yeah, well you're thinking in terms of your current invincibility too
Deetman91 (1:24:47 AM): i was hoping we could just make sure something is in place
Deetman91 (1:24:56 AM): no one gets all flippy and scared
SunSet141k (1:25:11 AM): I get that, but I also have not talked to Sadie
SunSet141k (1:25:37 AM): and it's weird for me to make a plan with out talkign to everyone
Deetman91 (1:25:49 AM): ok
SunSet141k (1:26:06 AM): cuz like what if I talk to her and her and I can't stand each other lol
SunSet141k (1:26:08 AM): or something ya know?
SunSet141k (1:26:21 AM): it's like right now I feel like it's unfair sincen I've talked to everyone but her
Deetman91 (1:26:40 AM): yeah
SunSet141k (1:27:05 AM): yeah I'll just vote for you ;-)
Deetman91 (1:27:20 AM): lol
Deetman91 (1:28:11 AM): well idk what to say lol
Deetman91 (1:28:19 AM): but i do like that cam said he'd be up for us 3 to vote together
SunSet141k (1:28:25 AM): I'm obviously kidding.. that would be so mean if I did
Deetman91 (1:28:34 AM): oh i know lol
SunSet141k (1:28:41 AM): and I can't go to your level ;-)
Deetman91 (1:28:41 AM): about that, im just talking about everything else
Deetman91 (1:29:04 AM): lol, let's also remember you've never done something remarkably selfless for me that i vividly recall
Deetman91 (1:29:21 AM): so maybe i can say im on a better level in some regards too
SunSet141k (1:29:31 AM): excuse me? lol
Deetman91 (1:29:39 AM): lol
Deetman91 (1:29:45 AM): i don't remember ever getting immunity from youj
Deetman91 (1:29:46 AM): lol
SunSet141k (1:29:57 AM): well we were playing Big Brother
SunSet141k (1:30:01 AM): and it was like round 2
SunSet141k (1:30:04 AM): lol
Deetman91 (1:30:16 AM): i know lol
SunSet141k (1:30:23 AM): but yes I know what you are saying
SunSet141k (1:30:27 AM): lol
Deetman91 (1:30:27 AM): yes lol
SunSet141k (1:30:31 AM): :-)
Deetman91 (1:30:34 AM): you have a unique reason to trust me
Deetman91 (1:30:40 AM): and a unique one to distrust me
Deetman91 (1:30:42 AM): i don't have either
Deetman91 (1:30:47 AM): though i do trust you anyway
SunSet141k (1:30:57 AM): you got to read that I was being loyal to you
SunSet141k (1:31:00 AM): lol
Deetman91 (1:31:16 AM): lol
Deetman91 (1:31:34 AM): yeah, but it wasn't really a time to plan to get me out either way when you left lol
Deetman91 (1:31:48 AM): and anyway this is a new game!
Deetman91 (1:31:49 AM): lmfao
Deetman91 (1:32:09 AM): ultimately
Deetman91 (1:32:20 AM): im confident someone from my old tribe is going to go on the other side
Deetman91 (1:32:29 AM): and two people from my old tribe don't like me
Deetman91 (1:32:35 AM): and i know they don't like cory either
Deetman91 (1:32:46 AM): and i don't have any ties with travis, or people who were on your old tribe
Deetman91 (1:32:49 AM): besides you and cam
Deetman91 (1:32:58 AM): and i just am trying not to sacrafise everything
SunSet141k (1:33:17 AM): yeah but you want me to be all cool with sadie
SunSet141k (1:33:21 AM): when i dont' know her at all
SunSet141k (1:33:26 AM): so yeah it makes me a little uncomfortable
SunSet141k (1:33:32 AM): I've never even spoken one word to hr
SunSet141k (1:33:33 AM): her*
Deetman91 (1:33:49 AM): yeah, but i see no way that next round
SunSet141k (1:33:54 AM): I did PM her and ask for her sn or whatever if she has one for aim but I guess she hasn't been on or chose not reply lol
Deetman91 (1:33:55 AM): if me, you, and cam vote together if we're on the same tribes
Deetman91 (1:33:58 AM): you would be in trouble
Deetman91 (1:34:14 AM): sadie doesn't really matter, beyond that fact if kyle comes here
Deetman91 (1:34:17 AM): there is more in motion
Deetman91 (1:34:22 AM): and yeah, definitely talk to her lol
Deetman91 (1:34:28 AM): but i don't see how that will make or break stuff
Deetman91 (1:36:01 AM): im just trying to figure out what the case is
Deetman91 (1:36:09 AM): its just that your tribe seems kinda solid with each other
Deetman91 (1:36:14 AM): where as my tribe is a rediculous mess
Deetman91 (1:36:22 AM): where im not liked, and cory isn't liked more
Deetman91 (1:36:29 AM): which i liked lol
Deetman91 (1:37:30 AM): idk lol
Deetman91 (1:37:52 AM): am i being selfish or generous?
Deetman91 (1:37:55 AM): i can't even tell at this point lol
Deetman91 (1:38:05 AM): but you get why i mean, your tribe just seems so solid and fine
Deetman91 (1:38:16 AM): and im almost definitely losing at least one person from my old one as is
Deetman91 (1:41:16 AM): also if it helps travis wasn't saying nice things about you lol
Deetman91 (1:41:34 AM): i just remembered that now, but it wasn't too out there, but it was odd, so there's that
Deetman91 (1:41:53 AM): but that's really the only reason i can come up with for you, and yeah, there's more for me why it would be better for him to go probably
Deetman91 (1:42:54 AM): ok lol im guessing you're not even here, so ill wait a bit lol, but i do have to go to bed soon
Deetman91 (2:46:09 AM): alrighty, well ill talk to you later
Deetman91 (2:46:13 AM): have a good night
Deetman91 signed off at 2:46:56 AM

---He started just babbling on.. I actually fell asleep talking to him and woke up to seeing these comments like.. Travis wasn't saying nice things about me.. who says that.. he should say WHAT kind of things he's saying that aren't nice.

So after a lot of talking to people and a lot of thinking.. I have decided that it is in my best interest to take out Travis. I know like wtf? But my logic here is that.. I've made a 3 way alliance with Cory and Cam. I have one with Deet and Cam and possibly Sadie. Travis doesn't fit in anywhere.. he is being a snake and throwing me under the bus to Deet and to Cory. That just pisses me off beyond belief.. I mean sure we could probably get away with a vote to take out Sadie.. BUT all that will do is piss off Deet because it's behind his back and therefore he won't trust me and he'll probably try to take me out.. which if we leave Travis in.. Travis could possibly go for that.. and it wouldn't be hard to sway Cory back into voting me out because well we've had so many issues in the past that if the opportunity came up he'd probably go for it. Not even to just beat me.. but because he knows I'm a threat. So I had to convince Cam to vote Travis too and that's the information that I had to explain to him to get him to be okay with voting out Travis. I have informed Deet that I am down with it now and that I finally understand his logic. Which I do.. it makes perfect sense. Plus I need Deet to trust me and to know that I trust him. He showed it by giving me immunity, I need to show it by putting faith in him that he's not going to try to go after me after Travis is gone. Travis is just a trouble maker. He needs to leave right now.

But I did confront Travis and yeah he admitted to saying he was mad that I won the challenge because it puts him at risk. But whatever.. I found out he said even more than that to Cory. He basically is trying to say I've done nothing in the challenges and that out of no where I win individual immunity.. mind you he doesn't know that Deet GAVE me the win. But oh well.. life goes on. I'm just annoyed that he's throwing me under the bus to the other original tribe.. how stupid.


Conversation with Travis:
SunSet141k (10:21:50 AM): hey
Travisimogoat (10:22:29 AM): HIT THERE
SunSet141k (10:22:37 AM): hows it going?
Travisimogoat (10:26:38 AM): good babe how are you?
SunSet141k (10:26:48 AM): not so good
SunSet141k (10:26:55 AM): what have ya been saying about me?
Travisimogoat (10:27:51 AM): pardon?
SunSet141k (10:28:11 AM): I've just been hearing from people that you've been talking badly about me.. so I'm asking you about it.
Travisimogoat (10:28:19 AM): hmmmm
Travisimogoat (10:28:21 AM): interesting
Travisimogoat (10:28:24 AM): i dont think so
Travisimogoat (10:28:31 AM): I did say I wish you hadn't won immunity
Travisimogoat (10:28:39 AM): it makes things a lot more complicated for me
Travisimogoat (10:28:43 AM): but thats about it
SunSet141k (10:29:09 AM): oh okay that's probably what it is cuz it wasn't said what you said.. just that what you said wasn't nice and I"m like um?
Travisimogoat (10:29:31 AM): from deetman?
SunSet141k (10:30:36 AM): yeah but don't repeat that.. all he said was travis wasn't saying nice things about you. And I figured it was to throw people off that we're alligned, that's why I'm asking ya, of course the other tribe is gonna try whatever to turn us against each other.
Travisimogoat (10:30:57 AM): oh i know that
Travisimogoat (10:31:17 AM): I mean I knew it was him, because he was the one that asked me if I was bummed
Travisimogoat (10:31:32 AM): and he if anything was the one that seemed annoyed that you beat him
Travisimogoat (10:31:35 AM): but whatever
Travisimogoat (10:31:49 AM): i hate when people try and throw me under the bus and twist my words
Travisimogoat (10:31:54 AM): thanks for coming to me directly
Travisimogoat (10:32:05 AM): i will be more careful in my communication with him
Travisimogoat (10:33:07 AM): My only chance of survival right now is you and Cam sticking tigether and with me
SunSet141k (10:33:15 AM): of course
SunSet141k (10:42:21 AM): who do you want out?
SunSet141k (10:45:44 AM): ???
Travisimogoat (10:58:25 AM): sorry brb
SunSet141k (10:58:31 AM): k
Travisimogoat (11:00:33 AM): okay back sorry bout that
Travisimogoat (11:00:39 AM): an Ex showed up
Travisimogoat (11:00:41 AM): Awkward city
Travisimogoat (11:01:00 AM): I dont really care who goes at this point as long as its not me
Travisimogoat (11:01:11 AM): Cam was cuggestiong Sadie but IDK
Travisimogoat (11:02:09 AM): who do u think?
SunSet141k (11:03:03 AM): that be fine with me
SunSet141k (11:03:06 AM): if it's fine with you?
Travisimogoat (11:04:20 AM): well i guess, but it only works if we can get somoe to flop
Travisimogoat (11:04:23 AM): otherwise I am gone
SunSet141k (11:04:32 AM): true
SunSet141k (11:04:37 AM): that's why the cory vote made sense
SunSet141k (11:04:46 AM): because he has a past vote too
Travisimogoat (11:05:25 AM): i agree
Travisimogoat (11:12:52 AM): otherwise our tribe will get picked off
SunSet141k (11:13:26 AM): exactly
Travisimogoat (11:13:41 AM): and even if i do go, i dont want the rest of my tribe to follow
---Whatever.. just STFU already. *rolls eyes*


Conversation with Cam:
SunSet141k (10:21:35 AM): hey
Dogdude84 (10:26:56 AM): heya sup
SunSet141k (10:27:25 AM): Deeet REALLY wants to take out Travis.. he kept going on and on about it.. I even fell asleep during the convo.. and near the end he randomly says that Travis has been saying bad things about me
SunSet141k (10:27:29 AM): like out of no where he randomly says that
SunSet141k (10:27:34 AM): so it makes me feel like he's making it up
SunSet141k (10:27:35 AM): I don't even know
SunSet141k (10:27:39 AM): I'm getting really frustrated
Dogdude84 (10:28:20 AM): lol wow tat's annoying
Dogdude84 (10:28:28 AM): that's*
SunSet141k (10:28:44 AM): it is
Dogdude84 (10:30:44 AM): cory hasn't been around yet
SunSet141k (10:32:53 AM): cory is on right now
Dogdude84 (10:34:10 AM): oh he was in my "recent buddies"
Dogdude84 (10:34:13 AM): didn't see him down there lol
SunSet141k (10:36:28 AM): lol
SunSet141k (10:36:34 AM): I think we might have to take out travis
SunSet141k (10:36:41 AM): he was saying crap about me to cory and to deet
Dogdude84 (10:37:05 AM): like what was he saying?
SunSet141k (10:39:05 AM): SunSet141k (10:29:28 AM): what shit have you heard? LOL this tribe is gonna give me a headache haha
survcory (10:29:56 AM): doing well, just relaxing before i head to a grad party later tonight
survcory (10:30:09 AM): shit? i havent heard much lol...
survcory (10:30:55 AM): travis told me that he hated the fact you won immunity cause you apparetnly did shit in the challenge before and now suddenly you appear and win an individual one lol
SunSet141k (10:31:21 AM): well that's stupid since I did help in the challenges.. but this is the first one I was able to be on for it.
SunSet141k (10:31:28 AM): the other ones I came later and did them
SunSet141k (10:31:31 AM): but I always did them.
survcory (10:31:42 AM): he said that him and cam were the only ones who worked to get this far
Dogdude84 (10:40:45 AM): hmm, that's just silly
Dogdude84 (10:40:50 AM): you have worked hard lol
SunSet141k (10:41:16 AM): I know!
SunSet141k (10:41:44 AM): question for ya
SunSet141k (10:41:47 AM): are you close with cory
Dogdude84 (10:42:49 AM): still haven't gotten my elevator thingy yet, i want doug to post my challenge or w/e i have to do for it
Dogdude84 (10:43:05 AM): test
Dogdude84 (10:43:40 AM): test
Dogdude84 (10:43:43 AM): ok there we go
Dogdude84 (10:43:46 AM): couldn't see your messages
SunSet141k (10:43:47 AM): lol
Dogdude84 (10:44:01 AM): your copy/paste made me get a "stack overflow"
Dogdude84 (10:44:03 AM): w/e that is
SunSet141k (10:44:09 AM): oh weird
SunSet141k (10:45:12 AM): i'm so frustrated, anyway answer my question :-P
Dogdude84 (10:45:19 AM): what question?
Dogdude84 (10:45:29 AM): i couldn't see what it was because of the error
SunSet141k (10:45:35 AM): are you close with cory
Dogdude84 (10:45:39 AM): oh
Dogdude84 (10:45:44 AM): i'm friends with him
SunSet141k (10:46:00 AM): I mean are you gonna screw me over for him :-P
Dogdude84 (10:46:07 AM): no of course not
Dogdude84 (10:46:08 AM): silly
SunSet141k (10:46:31 AM): lol alright good
SunSet141k (10:46:39 AM): cuz deet was talking about how cory mentioned that you guys are friends
SunSet141k (10:46:43 AM): so he's all maybe they are close!
Dogdude84 (10:46:51 AM): rofl
Dogdude84 (10:46:59 AM): sure we're friends, but i'm friends with you and deet too
Dogdude84 (10:48:16 AM): don't get all paranoid lol, you're not allowed to when you're immune ;-)
SunSet141k (10:48:26 AM): I'm not paranoid!
SunSet141k (10:48:27 AM): lol
Dogdude84 (10:48:30 AM): hahaha
SunSet141k (10:48:31 AM): okay maybe a little
SunSet141k (10:48:39 AM): LOl at cory thinking you and travis would vote together for sure
SunSet141k (10:48:43 AM): I think we need to just vote out travis
SunSet141k (10:48:48 AM): and pull in cory on the side
SunSet141k (10:48:50 AM): so have an alliance with cory
SunSet141k (10:48:52 AM): and one with deet
SunSet141k (10:48:56 AM): so if either try to fuck around
SunSet141k (10:49:01 AM): we take that one out
SunSet141k (10:49:12 AM): and sadie can think she's in one with me and you and deet? lol
Dogdude84 (10:49:22 AM): lol this is getting complicated
SunSet141k (10:49:26 AM): yes it is
SunSet141k (10:49:33 AM): but I think it's the best thing for us to do
SunSet141k (10:49:41 AM): if travis is throwing me under the bus for no fricken reason
SunSet141k (10:49:44 AM): he needs to go
SunSet141k (10:49:48 AM): he's going to cause problems lol
Dogdude84 (10:50:09 AM): is there still a beef with you and cory?
SunSet141k (10:50:52 AM): no but I'm still playing it up that there is.
SunSet141k (10:50:58 AM): to deet
SunSet141k (10:51:02 AM): but I"m being honest with you
SunSet141k (10:51:03 AM): lol
SunSet141k (10:51:07 AM): just don't say anything
Dogdude84 (10:51:13 AM): won't, of course
Dogdude84 (10:53:09 AM): still think booting travis would be bad, like i don't want a random floater (sadie) hanging around
Dogdude84 (10:53:20 AM): she's basically a vote that deet can use
SunSet141k (10:53:26 AM): I totally agree with you but I don't think deet or cory will vote sadie
SunSet141k (10:53:36 AM): even if cory has only talked to sadie once lol
Dogdude84 (10:53:42 AM): lmao
Dogdude84 (10:53:56 AM): i'd feel so much better if we had the numbers
SunSet141k (10:55:06 AM): i'd feel so much better if travis wasn't the 3rd person from our original tribe lol
Dogdude84 (10:56:15 AM): lmfao
SunSet141k (10:56:36 AM): survcory (10:53:32 AM):so i guess its between sadie and travis? survcory (10:53:42 AM):deet i think will get sadie to vote travis survcory (10:53:52 AM):and we may be able to get cam to vote travis too? SunSet141k (10:54:26 AM):cam will more so vote with me, but not cuz I will make him or anything. i dont' control him, he'll just stick with me in this situation is what I"m saying. lol survcory (10:55:15 AM):ok gotcha survcory (10:55:48 AM):yeah outside the game cam and i get along so i could prob get him to vote too... i am actually talking to him right now, but not about the game
SunSet141k (10:57:11 AM): I don't like how he thinks he could control your vote.. after I just said I don't control your vote.. like wtf?
Dogdude84 (10:57:56 AM): hmm
Dogdude84 (10:58:18 AM): i don't think he meant much by t hat
Dogdude84 (10:58:20 AM): that*
SunSet141k (10:58:37 AM): oh I know
SunSet141k (10:58:42 AM): but I really watch how people word things
SunSet141k (10:58:42 AM): lol
SunSet141k (10:58:55 AM): i'm trying to make a 3 way alliance with him right now :-P
Dogdude84 (10:59:09 AM): with you me and him you mean?
SunSet141k (10:59:39 AM): yeah
SunSet141k (10:59:41 AM): lol
Dogdude84 (10:59:54 AM): ah nice :-P
SunSet141k (11:03:20 AM): so what do you think we should do
SunSet141k (11:03:26 AM): just go with voting out Travis
SunSet141k (11:03:59 AM): if tribes stay like this.. hope we win immunity.. if we don't.. then we can either vote out sadie or cory LOL
SunSet141k (11:05:07 AM): because I just realized something
SunSet141k (11:05:16 AM): even if we got cory on our side and we voted out sadie..
SunSet141k (11:05:22 AM): deet would be MAD
SunSet141k (11:05:27 AM): and I don't think I want to deal with a mad deet
SunSet141k (11:05:28 AM): lol
SunSet141k (11:05:39 AM): not when we don't have for sure numbers.
Dogdude84 (11:06:01 AM): lol
Dogdude84 (11:06:29 AM): we can't be afraid of one player
SunSet141k (11:06:37 AM): you're right but he's a good player..
Dogdude84 (11:06:43 AM): and we would have numbers
SunSet141k (11:06:58 AM): but the reason I'm worried about pissing off deet right now
SunSet141k (11:06:59 AM): is because of kyle
SunSet141k (11:07:02 AM): IF he comes over here
SunSet141k (11:07:05 AM): and we piss of deet
SunSet141k (11:07:09 AM): they could all just decide to stick together
SunSet141k (11:07:12 AM): and we'd be screwed
SunSet141k (11:07:21 AM): I'm actually using deet's logic against myself now lol
Dogdude84 (11:07:31 AM): lmao
SunSet141k (11:07:42 AM): they would have 3 and we'd have 2
SunSet141k (11:07:48 AM): instead of us having 3 because deet will stick with us
SunSet141k (11:08:07 AM): do you get what I"m saying?
Dogdude84 (11:08:20 AM): if i could boot anyone without worry about sides or recoil from it, it would be sadie
SunSet141k (11:08:30 AM): so would I
Dogdude84 (11:09:32 AM): so if travis goes, cory would be next in all likelihood
Dogdude84 (11:10:03 AM): i wonder if we'll merge at 10 or 9
Dogdude84 (11:10:17 AM): probably 9...
Dogdude84 (11:10:35 AM): i would think we'd stay on these tribes for one more round
Dogdude84 (11:10:43 AM): at least
SunSet141k (11:10:57 AM): see you don't have an issue with travis
SunSet141k (11:11:01 AM): because he wasn't throwing you under the bus
SunSet141k (11:11:04 AM): but if we stay in these tribes
SunSet141k (11:11:17 AM): and we lose immunity
SunSet141k (11:11:22 AM): he will throw me under the bus to whoever
SunSet141k (11:11:25 AM): to get me gone
SunSet141k (11:11:31 AM): over him and you
SunSet141k (11:11:35 AM): it won't matter who is left
SunSet141k (11:11:42 AM): he's already started to throw me under the bus as it is.
Dogdude84 (11:12:46 AM): i just hate that it can't be easy and boot sadie
Dogdude84 (11:12:51 AM): i have to get rid of a friend, whoever it may be
SunSet141k (11:13:06 AM): lol you can't base this on who is the easiest vote for you :-P
SunSet141k (11:13:18 AM): I don't WANT to vote out travis.. but he is being a snake and that's annoying me either way.
Dogdude84 (11:13:54 AM): i would just feel bad because yesterday travis and I talked and he's all worried and i told him i'd fight for him
Dogdude84 (11:14:02 AM): to turn around and boot him would suck lol
SunSet141k (11:14:20 AM): yeah but if he was talking shit about you to the other tribe
SunSet141k (11:14:23 AM): you wouldn't care so much
SunSet141k (11:14:31 AM): cuz originally i was feeling bad about even thinking about voting him
SunSet141k (11:14:34 AM): till I find out what he was saying
SunSet141k (11:14:35 AM): and I know it's true
SunSet141k (11:14:37 AM): cuz I asked him.
SunSet141k (11:14:54 AM): he just worded it nicely to me
Dogdude84 (11:15:19 AM): blahhhhhhh
Dogdude84 (11:15:27 AM): this game is only gonna get harder
SunSet141k (11:15:38 AM): it shouldn't matter who we boot
SunSet141k (11:15:42 AM): since they all have to go
Dogdude84 (11:15:48 AM): fair enough ;-)
SunSet141k (11:16:11 AM): but I feel the safer route for us.. is to vote travis.. I know that doesn't sound safer.. but I could see him voting with them to vote me out.. if deet gets mad that we voted out sadie.
Dogdude84 (11:16:29 AM): perhaps
Dogdude84 (11:16:31 AM): ugh
SunSet141k (11:16:37 AM): yeah travis probably won't vote you out
SunSet141k (11:16:41 AM): but he doesn't give a damn about me lol
Dogdude84 (11:16:44 AM): lol
SunSet141k (11:16:55 AM): and deet is the vengeful type
SunSet141k (11:16:59 AM): he got revenge when I was voted out
SunSet141k (11:17:04 AM): in the last game I was in for him
SunSet141k (11:17:05 AM): he was pissed
SunSet141k (11:17:12 AM): I was in with him*
Dogdude84 (11:17:21 AM): nice haha
Dogdude84 (11:17:49 AM): i will vote out travis, but i'll be annoyed if this doesn't work out for the 2 of us :-P
SunSet141k (11:18:34 AM): I know you can get mad at me later if it doesn't work out
Dogdude84 (11:18:49 AM): rofl i won't get mad at you either way
Dogdude84 (11:18:54 AM): or anyone for that matter, it's just a game after all
SunSet141k (11:19:07 AM): I'd get mad if it doesn't work lol
Dogdude84 (11:19:12 AM): lmao
Dogdude84 (11:19:32 AM): cory and i still aren't talking game lol
SunSet141k (11:20:57 AM): LOL!

---That took forever and a day but I think he finally sees what I see.. which is a good start.


Conversation with Cory:
SunSet141k (10:28:29 AM): hi
survcory (10:28:38 AM): hello there! :-)
SunSet141k (10:29:17 AM): hows it going?
SunSet141k (10:29:28 AM): what shit have you heard? LOL this tribe is gonna give me a headache haha
survcory (10:29:56 AM): doing well, just relaxing before i head to a grad party later tonight
survcory (10:30:09 AM): shit? i havent heard much lol...
survcory (10:30:55 AM): travis told me that he hated the fact you won immunity cause you apparetnly did shit in the challenge before and now suddenly you appear and win an individual one lol
SunSet141k (10:31:21 AM): well that's stupid since I did help in the challenges.. but this is the first one I was able to be on for it.
SunSet141k (10:31:28 AM): the other ones I came later and did them
SunSet141k (10:31:31 AM): but I always did them.
survcory (10:31:42 AM): he said that him and cam were the only ones who worked to get this far
survcory (10:32:48 AM): what have you heard?
SunSet141k (10:33:40 AM): he's such a liar lol the only ones to work to get this far
SunSet141k (10:33:41 AM): whatever
survcory (10:34:17 AM): deet said he was going to talk to you (because he thinks you and i dont get along and dont talk lol)
survcory (10:34:25 AM): about possibly voting travis?
SunSet141k (10:35:39 AM): I've been playing it up that i want you gone.
SunSet141k (10:35:45 AM): yes he's been pushing travis
SunSet141k (10:35:48 AM): but because deet knows me
SunSet141k (10:35:52 AM): if I just randomly was okay with that
SunSet141k (10:35:59 AM): without giving up much of a arguement
SunSet141k (10:36:01 AM): he'd be like
SunSet141k (10:36:03 AM): okay what is wrong with her
SunSet141k (10:36:08 AM): she goes on and on about her dislike of cory
SunSet141k (10:36:15 AM): and then is not trying to get her out? WTF
SunSet141k (10:36:16 AM): lol
survcory (10:36:28 AM): hahaha... good plan
SunSet141k (10:37:42 AM): He's just a really smart player..
SunSet141k (10:37:48 AM): and I do not want him to know we're okay now
SunSet141k (10:37:50 AM): by any means.
survcory (10:37:59 AM): yes i completely agree
survcory (10:38:13 AM): would you be okay with travis though?
SunSet141k (10:38:46 AM): My only true problem right now about that, is I have yet to even talk to sadie and it's kinda like wtf? is she even around at all? I don't want no inactives on our tribe
survcory (10:39:55 AM): i havent talked to sadie either but i am not sure if deet would vote that way... i think the 2 of them are close
survcory (10:40:09 AM): but as far as activity goes, she is around but not as often as everyone else
SunSet141k (10:40:09 AM): yeah it sounds like they are
SunSet141k (10:40:18 AM): I guess I'm not around very often either lol
SunSet141k (10:40:26 AM): cuz of work
survcory (10:40:41 AM): yeah i hear ya... i work too (during the days)
survcory (10:40:45 AM): we cant be here all the time
SunSet141k (10:40:56 AM): I just had yesterday off magically because I worked graveyards that night before.. and I do work today
survcory (10:41:17 AM): doesnt real life suck? all we do is work work work lol
SunSet141k (10:41:27 AM): yep
SunSet141k (10:41:41 AM): so are you close with sadie and deet then?
survcory (10:41:51 AM): deet more than sadie
survcory (10:42:02 AM): sadie i have only talked once in this game
SunSet141k (10:42:10 AM): LOL
SunSet141k (10:42:15 AM): then why do you keep her around?
survcory (10:42:34 AM): i didnt say i was close
survcory (10:42:49 AM): but she has been helpful in past votes, thats the only reason
survcory (10:43:51 AM): alex was trying to go after me and deet and sadie basically saved my ass in that vote
survcory (10:45:02 AM): (although kyle says it was him that saved me lol)
SunSet141k (10:45:19 AM): lol
survcory (10:46:24 AM): basically this is what i forsee happening: sadie and deet vote travis... travis and cam vote either sadie/deet/me. that leaves either you or me switching to the other side
survcory (10:46:27 AM): "other side"
SunSet141k (10:47:15 AM): why do you think travis and cam will vote together?
survcory (10:47:39 AM): i dont know, i just assumed since they were in the same tribe before they would vote that way?
survcory (10:47:45 AM): maybe not
SunSet141k (10:47:47 AM): I was on a tribe with them?
SunSet141k (10:47:51 AM): did you forget?
SunSet141k (10:47:52 AM): lol
survcory (10:49:40 AM): i know
survcory (10:51:19 AM): so tell me what you know about them then? who are you wanting to vote?
SunSet141k (10:51:34 AM): I got no problems with Cam
SunSet141k (10:51:47 AM): Travis.. I don't even know what to think about him
SunSet141k (10:51:53 AM): and after him saying crap about me.. I'm kind of annoyed
SunSet141k (10:51:58 AM): like what was the purpose of complaining I won
SunSet141k (10:52:00 AM): to the OTHER TRIBE
SunSet141k (10:52:04 AM): like wtf?
SunSet141k (10:52:08 AM): well other original tribe
survcory (10:52:23 AM): thats the way travis is from what i remember of him... i havent played with him in a long time
SunSet141k (10:52:31 AM): and I openly said you don't like me and I don't like you to him.. so I feel he said that to you because of that.
survcory (10:53:09 AM): hmmm.... that is true
survcory (10:53:32 AM): so i guess its between sadie and travis?
survcory (10:53:42 AM): deet i think will get sadie to vote travis
survcory (10:53:52 AM): and we may be able to get cam to vote travis too?
SunSet141k (10:54:26 AM): cam will more so vote with me, but not cuz I will make him or anything. i dont' control him, he'll just stick with me in this situation is what I"m saying. lol
survcory (10:55:15 AM): ok gotcha
survcory (10:55:48 AM): yeah outside the game cam and i get along so i could prob get him to vote too... i am actually talking to him right now, but not about the game
SunSet141k (10:58:25 AM): well what do you suggest we do? me you and cam could make an alliance if you want?
survcory (10:58:51 AM): i am cool with that
survcory (10:59:03 AM): do we want to add deet, do you think he would join with us?
survcory (10:59:16 AM): or perhaps he is too close to sadie for that
SunSet141k (10:59:26 AM): deet is so stuck on keep sadie around.. and that just makes me wonder.. who he would screw over to keep her around.
survcory (10:59:51 AM): yeah there is no seperating those too
survcory (10:59:54 AM): *two
survcory (11:00:21 AM): i trust cam quite a bit... i think we could let him in on our secret alliance
SunSet141k (11:00:45 AM): well I trust cam too but he doesn't need to know about the secret alliance, but that we're okay now lol
survcory (11:01:16 AM): yeah thats more like what i meant... you put it in better words haha
SunSet141k (11:01:28 AM): I'm good at that
SunSet141k (11:01:36 AM): that's what makes me a good social player lol
survcory (11:02:27 AM): you are a good social player :-)
SunSet141k (11:03:11 AM): :-P
survcory (11:03:45 AM): i am glad we are getting along again
SunSet141k (11:04:12 AM): I think it's wise deet doesn't find out we're okay lol
survcory (11:04:20 AM): yes i agree
SunSet141k (11:08:47 AM): so what should we do
SunSet141k (11:08:54 AM): vote out sadie or travis
SunSet141k (11:09:02 AM): deet would be mad if sadie left
SunSet141k (11:09:19 AM): but why should we let him have two votes? lol
survcory (11:11:20 AM): yeah its a tough call honestly
survcory (11:11:32 AM): i see both sides
SunSet141k (11:12:06 AM): I see both too
SunSet141k (11:12:08 AM): and that's why it's hard
SunSet141k (11:12:17 AM): travis is a snakish type player
SunSet141k (11:12:21 AM): and sadie is invisable.
SunSet141k (11:12:25 AM): but votes with deet lol
survcory (11:14:33 AM): that pretty much sums it all up hahaha
survcory (11:16:35 AM): because travis is sneaky, i think maybe we should go for him
survcory (11:17:01 AM): if you, myself and cam stick together we will have majority over deet and sadie and can vote off sadie if we need to later
SunSet141k (11:17:33 AM): yes that's true
SunSet141k (11:17:43 AM): I think it's smarter for travis to go too
SunSet141k (11:17:57 AM): originaly I wouldn't have thought that.. with you and I hating on each other.. but since we're not..
SunSet141k (11:18:03 AM): it almost makes no sense to keep travis
SunSet141k (11:18:12 AM): especially if he's all saying crap about me..
SunSet141k (11:18:44 AM): lol
survcory (11:19:05 AM): right
survcory (11:19:24 AM): if you and i were truly hating on eachother it would be completely different
survcory (11:19:33 AM): but we like eachother now :-) haha
SunSet141k (11:20:52 AM): well I don't really like you still ;-)
survcory (11:21:43 AM): lol
survcory (11:22:15 AM): travis just imd me lol
SunSet141k (11:25:53 AM): fun what is he saying now?
SunSet141k (11:27:31 AM): it took me this long to be down with voting out travis, I hope it stays to that plan lol
survcory (11:29:49 AM): he actually wants me to read a convo he is having with someone else in a nother game lol
survcory (11:30:00 AM): and to give him advice hahaha
SunSet141k (11:30:03 AM): lol
survcory (11:31:06 AM): hasnt mentioned anything about this game
survcory (11:31:22 AM): i think he has a feeling it may be him
survcory (11:37:33 AM): sadie just imd me
survcory (11:37:37 AM): i told her to vote travis
SunSet141k (11:37:44 AM): alright cool
survcory (11:40:10 AM): she has been gone for the weekend w/o good internet access... she said she will be back in full swing tomorrow

---I actually think I trust Cory.. that's such an odd thing for me to say.. but whatever.


I think my original problem with everything was because Cory is on this tribe.. but I don't feel so threatened by Cory now so it's not a big issue. Only time will tell.. THANK GOD I HAVE IMMUNITY! This is why I wanted it.. so that I could dig around and not have to worry that I'll be the one to go or that it would backfire in my face .

Conversation with Deet:
SunSet141k (10:04:22 AM): I'm so sorry I fell asleep!
Deetman91 (11:42:41 AM): haha, its okay
SunSet141k (11:42:59 AM): get my PM?
Deetman91 (11:43:41 AM): no i just got on
Deetman91 (11:43:43 AM): but i see it
SunSet141k (11:43:53 AM): read it! lol
Deetman91 (11:44:24 AM): ah okay i did
Deetman91 (11:44:26 AM): and yes
Deetman91 (11:44:30 AM): what he said wasn't big
Deetman91 (11:44:37 AM): but to say it when people JUST switched to the tribe
Deetman91 (11:44:43 AM): clearly is kinda a big step lol
Deetman91 (11:44:51 AM): he was just saying that you didn't help at all on the other tribe
Deetman91 (11:45:00 AM): and that it was interesting to see you try for individual immunity
SunSet141k (11:45:11 AM): he's a liar
Deetman91 (11:45:14 AM): which sounded pretty odd
Deetman91 (11:45:17 AM): since i know you lol
SunSet141k (11:45:25 AM): there was only ONE challenge I didn't help in and it's cuz my tribe won before I got home.
Deetman91 (11:45:36 AM): lol yeah
SunSet141k (11:45:41 AM): yeah I was late to like all the challenges
Deetman91 (11:45:42 AM): well he was trying to push for you being weak or something
SunSet141k (11:45:44 AM): but I still did my part
Deetman91 (11:45:55 AM): he said to me "im surprised cam didn't show up. It's like kenya and he switched roles"
Deetman91 (11:45:58 AM): or something like that
SunSet141k (11:46:07 AM): lmao!
Deetman91 (11:46:37 AM): anyway
Deetman91 (11:46:41 AM): with travis gone
Deetman91 (11:46:44 AM): im positive
Deetman91 (11:46:48 AM): someone from my other tribe is gone
Deetman91 (11:46:59 AM): because kyle has 3 votes
Deetman91 (11:47:05 AM): so unless there is more mixing over there
Deetman91 (11:47:08 AM): i think it should even out
Deetman91 (11:47:19 AM): and then i think we'll either merge, and then me and you can see who should go where
Deetman91 (11:47:21 AM): to get us further
Deetman91 (11:47:27 AM): or, if we stay at 10
Deetman91 (11:47:33 AM): we'll take that from there too
Deetman91 (11:47:36 AM): but ill stick to you and cam
SunSet141k (11:47:53 AM): well I'm glad
Deetman91 (11:48:28 AM): same
Deetman91 (11:48:47 AM): is everything else okay with you and other people on your tribe?
SunSet141k (11:49:13 AM): did you mean to say that to me?
SunSet141k (11:49:14 AM): lol
Deetman91 (11:50:40 AM): yeah lol
Deetman91 (11:50:54 AM): i mean like brant, bryan, all them
Deetman91 (11:51:06 AM): because as ive told you, me and kyle ain't too good
Deetman91 (11:51:18 AM): im just trying to get an understanding of who's good people
Deetman91 (11:51:20 AM): and who's maybe not
Deetman91 (11:51:21 AM): lol
SunSet141k (11:51:35 AM): oh
SunSet141k (11:51:39 AM): yeah I"m fine with brant and bryan
SunSet141k (11:51:48 AM): pete I haven't talked to lots, but I think I'm okay with him too? lol
Deetman91 (11:51:55 AM): lol
Deetman91 (11:52:45 AM): i couldn't remember who i was forgetting
Deetman91 (11:52:47 AM): cool though
Deetman91 (11:54:23 AM): ok then
Deetman91 (11:54:58 AM): the first vote at merge
Deetman91 (11:55:04 AM): i will vote with you guys probably then
SunSet141k (11:55:19 AM): if merge is next
SunSet141k (11:55:22 AM): it might not be lol
Deetman91 (11:55:23 AM): yes
Deetman91 (11:55:30 AM): if its not
Deetman91 (11:55:36 AM): then i definitely am voting with you guys lol
SunSet141k (11:55:40 AM): lol ok
Deetman91 (11:55:57 AM): though
Deetman91 (11:56:00 AM): id prefer winning
SunSet141k (11:56:22 AM): so would I
Deetman91 (11:56:49 AM): i promise though, i will not let you and cam go
Deetman91 (11:57:01 AM): i just dont want to show yet that im done with my tribe
Deetman91 (11:57:08 AM): in any solid way lol
Deetman91 (11:57:10 AM): because then idk
Deetman91 (11:57:19 AM): at merge, maybe some will talk to the others
Deetman91 (11:57:26 AM): like "Deetster really screwed you guys"
Deetman91 (11:57:27 AM): lol
SunSet141k (12:00:25 PM): yeah I getcha
SunSet141k (12:17:23 PM): blah
Deetman91 (12:18:54 PM): blah?
SunSet141k (12:19:05 PM): i don't know
SunSet141k (12:19:08 PM): you stopped talkin
Deetman91 (12:19:16 PM): lol
Deetman91 (12:19:22 PM): i went to right a confessional
Deetman91 (12:19:31 PM): on how i believe you and I are "official"
Deetman91 (12:19:35 PM): lol
Deetman91 (12:19:41 PM): write*
Deetman91 (12:20:12 PM): we're on the total same page at this point, and i feel we have the trust now
Deetman91 (12:20:16 PM): so i was excited lol
Deetman91 (12:20:28 PM): cause i...didn't have much of that on Hornswhatever
SunSet141k (12:20:34 PM): awww
SunSet141k (12:20:37 PM): yeah you got me :-)
Deetman91 (12:20:42 PM): you got me too
Deetman91 (12:20:44 PM): and cam's got me too
SunSet141k (12:20:51 PM): good to know lol
Deetman91 (12:20:51 PM): you got me more
Deetman91 (12:20:52 PM): lmfao
Deetman91 (12:20:57 PM): but i won't be turning on cam
SunSet141k (12:21:06 PM): it was so hard to convince him though LOL but he gets it now
SunSet141k (12:21:09 PM): :-)
Deetman91 (12:21:12 PM): ok
Deetman91 (12:21:15 PM): well ill make sure
SunSet141k (12:21:16 PM): I'm just glad I had a good nights sleep
Deetman91 (12:21:24 PM): to show him working with me
Deetman91 (12:21:26 PM): is worth it
SunSet141k (12:21:40 PM): but it doesn't matter either way since cory and sadie will vote that way too
SunSet141k (12:21:44 PM): so whether cam votes that way or not
SunSet141k (12:21:49 PM): travis will go
SunSet141k (12:21:51 PM): but he should vote that way
SunSet141k (12:21:54 PM): I don't see why he'd lie about it lol
Deetman91 (12:22:01 PM): yeah
Deetman91 (12:22:11 PM): that will be weird if he doesn't lol
SunSet141k (12:22:40 PM): yeah it would
Deetman91 (12:22:50 PM): ugh
Deetman91 (12:22:52 PM): i just wanna like
Deetman91 (12:22:54 PM): map the game out now
Deetman91 (12:22:57 PM): lmfao
Deetman91 (12:23:27 PM): i hate waiiiiting once i feel i trust someone lmfao
Deetman91 (12:23:34 PM): but we do have to wait to see what happens lol
Deetman91 (12:23:39 PM): but this is good lol
SunSet141k (12:24:09 PM): yep!
Deetman91 (12:26:06 PM): but im really really happy as a side not
Deetman91 (12:26:10 PM): you got cournojo out lmfao
Deetman91 (12:26:17 PM): note*
SunSet141k (12:26:19 PM): so am I
SunSet141k (12:26:22 PM): he was driving me crazy
Deetman91 (12:26:29 PM): he honestly can be such a problem
Deetman91 (12:26:32 PM): if enough people let him be
SunSet141k (12:26:47 PM): and like he'd try to form all these alliances and would try to get us to vote out Pete because they don't like each other and shit and would go on about Pete being a bad host and we're all like wtf?
Deetman91 (12:27:03 PM): yeah, that's not true lmfao
Deetman91 (12:27:14 PM): pete is a great host, cournojo just cheated in his game and rightfully got booted
SunSet141k (12:27:18 PM): but I mean our tribe was pretty mellow and we all would like talk to each other about him lol
SunSet141k (12:27:36 PM): and even if pete was a bad host, what does that have to do with this game? LOL
Deetman91 (12:27:42 PM): yeah lmfao
Deetman91 (12:27:51 PM): im glad your tribe was active and mellow
Deetman91 (12:28:14 PM): and cournojo can't say anything about anyones hosting
Deetman91 (12:28:18 PM): with what a bomb his game was
Deetman91 (12:28:25 PM): lmfao
Deetman91 (12:28:28 PM): the 3 month application process
Deetman91 (12:28:37 PM): to quit after 4 days
SunSet141k (12:28:46 PM): ugh yeah
Deetman91 (12:29:00 PM): i didn't both signing up
Deetman91 (12:29:07 PM): as a silent protest to him cheating in OPS2
Deetman91 (12:29:31 PM): if u can't follows host rules
Deetman91 (12:29:34 PM): i don't think you should host really
SunSet141k (12:30:59 PM): nope you shouldn't lol
Deetman91 (12:31:15 PM): anyway
Deetman91 (12:31:20 PM): i slept like 2 hours last night
Deetman91 (12:31:26 PM): so i might nap
Deetman91 (12:31:32 PM): or...do something between that and sleep lmfao
SunSet141k (12:31:50 PM): lmao!
Deetman91 (12:31:56 PM): so im gonna go ahead and do that, but I'll pass on to sadie to vote travis, cause i haven't really talked to her yet
Deetman91 (12:32:02 PM): and yeah, you talk to her too lol
Deetman91 (12:32:04 PM): maybe come merge
Deetman91 (12:32:09 PM): she can be importante
Deetman91 (12:32:19 PM): you're not great with cory
Deetman91 (12:32:24 PM): so
Deetman91 (12:32:27 PM): lmfa
Deetman91 (12:32:30 PM): my tribe really did suck...hmm
Deetman91 (12:32:36 PM): anyway though, im gonna lay down for real
Deetman91 (12:32:38 PM): hahaha
Deetman91 (12:32:40 PM): ill ttyl
SunSet141k (12:33:01 PM): alright have a good nap!
Deetman91 (12:33:24 PM): ttyl!
SunSet141k (12:33:32 PM): byee
Deetman91 (12:33:45 PM): bbye!

---So I think I have gained his trust. Which is awesome. I feel much better about my position on this tribe. Took a lot of work.. but it was well needed work and I think things are panning out perfectly. As long as things go to plan.

I'm very excited to see how this is going to play out!

Cory was saying that Cam is worried about voting out Travis and what not, but Cam is just putting on an act to Cory.. which is pretty funny actually. Cory was all we need to get him in a chat with us, so we did that and "convinced" Cam together. Although he already is down with voting Travis but WHATEVER I don't really care.. whatever floats his boat. I still haven't talked to Sadie.. like wtf? Where is that girl? She needs to come on because I need to have a chat with her too. I just don't know her and I'd like to get to know her!

Kyle did join our tribe.. how annoying, it doesn't really bother me too much though. We kind of were expecting it to happen, life moves on. Travis is probably going for sure now, especially after his out bursts to people and trying to make up shit about me to people. Which only pissed them off. I don't even know what to think of him for it. I mean he just started saying things that make no sense and that he shouldn't be saying at all!

I'm just so thankful for having immunity around my neck right now! Thank you Deet for messing up on purpose to let me have it. <3 <3 love you!