Jessica's Diary Room ~ Round 9 Conversations

During the challenge....

Cournojo - Bella wrote:

Hi JEss,

Did you talked with anyone today beside me.

Do you think you have a good chance for getting the clues if one of Jason, Eric, Bill win IC.

Also, do you think you can convince Bill to give you his current idol?

Finally, any indication that one of them might use their idol?

Jessica Hamby wrote:

No one's going to give their idols away, but I would most likely get
clues if Jason won or maybe if Bill won. My money is on Bill and Eric
both using their idols. They might give an idol to Jason or me just to
confuse things or something but I doubt it. We will see what happens
after the challenge results are posted and people start talking again.

Bella is driving me crazy. I've been hoping not to get messages from her every damn time I sign on. But there's always something about idols or what she's going to say. She's being so stupid. I don't know what happened. She really wasn't like this 2 rounds ago. Is this a strategy?

I ask these fucking idiots for one thing. NOT to win the challenge. All they had to do was put me first on their lists and I would be fine. Jesus. Idiots. Well I guess it's their loss. I'm going to have to give the idol to one of Bon Temps or risk Jacob or Alice going home. No, I don't consider it a risk that Bella could go. I want Bella to go. I want nothing to do with her anymore, but I guess if she goes we go 3-3 into the next round and I wouldn't want that. For now I'm putting up with her. But once I give the idol to Bon Temps she's going to freak out and do something stupid anyway, because she's stupid, she wouldn't listen to me, and she's just basically the worst player in this game right now.

Let the HII scramble begin!

Cournojo - Bella wrote:

Congrats on the IC Win.

Here is my idea. You should give the
IDol to whoever but why not try to do an exchange with either Bill or
Eric. You give them the clues and the immunity necklace in exchange of
their idol. They will then ensure one EXTRA round and you could give
the HII to the person they will target?

What do you think?

Honestly, I know I will certainly be leaving . Since to whoever you are giving the clues they will give the IDOL to the person that doesnt have one right now.

I will wait for you and your plan I have no choice but to wait.

I just completely ignored her, didn't answer. I didn't care enough to coddle her again. But I did like her idea of offering the idol to Bill or Eric...so that's what I did.

Eric Northman wrote:

Hey Jess!! Nice job on the challenge! We totally
rocked that shit. Immunity stays with Bon Temps! Think you can pass the
idol clue my way and I shall return the favour? I promise I will find
it and it will help us to get further since Bill already has an idol
and I don't think Jason is really a target!!

Thanks hun!

Jessica Hamby wrote:

Well Eric. I have an idea. If you give me the idol you already have
then I'll give you the clues for this one. I would like that the most
because then, you know, I get to stay one round after this one for
sure. What do you think?

Eric Northman wrote:

Hey Jessica... the thing is since I was outta town I didn't get the last one because I didn't meet the deadline... I got it right but Pete said I submitted it too late!!

So
I don't know what to say. If you give it to me this time, and people
probably wont vote me because they will think I'm going to use it...
then I don't use it and we have it for next round and I will give it to
you then...

Deal?

Jessica Hamby wrote:

Well, I would assume everyone already thinks you have it. Because of
that they probably still won't vote for you, especially if you play it
up like you will be playing it. The same with Bill, everyone probably
thinks he has that idol, I don't even know if he really does or not,
but it could be the same thing. In which case for our tribe it would
probably be smartest to give it to Jason? Then they will think all of
Bon Temps is immune and maybe be more likely to turn on each other?

Eric Northman wrote:

That actually sounds like a great plan!! I didn't even think of it that way

Jessica Hamby wrote:

Yay! Good! I'm glad you think it's a good plan. I'm happy I can contribute in some way like this, finally.

I would call bullshit on that but I don't really care. It doesn't matter. What matters is how I can use this to my advantage. Whether it's true or not.

To Bill:

Jessica Hamby wrote:

Bill. I think Eric really was the one that betrayed us. I decided to
give him a little test. I told him I would give him the HII Clues if he
gave me the HII he already has. He said he never got that idol. I don't
think I believe him. I think that could prove you're innocence.
Especially since I'm going to make you the same offer, if you give me
your idol I'll give you the clues to this one. What do you think?

No response yet. I don't know if I'll get one before I have to give the clues to someone. But I wonder what this message will do.

Jacob knew I didn't want to win, so he wasted no time getting theories.

Deetster - Jacob wrote:

My best suggestion, is that maybe you can say to Eric and Jason, that
you think you should use the idol clue as a barter to make certain i
feel comfortable sticking with you guys. You can tell them that you
don't trust Bill not to still vote with the Forks people, and that you
need to make sure that I stay.

You can tell them that I
privately voiced my little bit of hurt emotions regarding you all not
including me on the Bella vote, after I was trying to help you guys,
and that you think I need to be resolidified.

You can even
consider going as far as stating that you and I made a deal that if we
won immunity we would give each other idols, because we invisioned
ourselves in the final 4 with Jason/Eric, and felt that those two would
always give each other idol clues, so it was only fair if we shared
idols with each other too.

Just two random idea I could come up
with to justify not giving those guys the idols, but I also totally
understand if you feel you have to, but it'd be great if we didn't.

In
any case, Bella is kinda falling apart now, but know regardless what
happens with her, and Forks, I'm 100% with you. I feel like in this
madness we've connected a lot, and I feel like we're on the same
"level" and that we get what each other gets, and that's something I
never fully found on Forks, with the acception of Alice, and for a
while Bella, before insanity hit, lol.

Hopefully we can find
our way through this, and I'm really happy you're safe in case things
really deteriorate. Good job, talk to you soon.

Jessica Hamby wrote:

I'm 'not here' and ignoring Bella for the moment because she's driving me crazy. I read your plans. I don't know what to do.

As
far as Bon Temps knows I don't talk to anyone, especially not you or
anyone on Forks. I feel like I give them that information then I'm
losing something. But I'm tihnking about it. What I could do is say
that during the challenge you PMed me and told me that you thought I
had the best chance of winning the challenge because I've been so UTR
and that you wouldn't stake me at all because of that if I agreed to
give you clues to the HII if I won. And along with that you promised
that if I have you the clues you would vote with me at this TC no
matter who I decided to vote for. I could send that information to Bill
and Jason and see what they have to say on it. Or maybe I'll send it to
just Jason. I've kind of set Jason and I up to be the 'closest' since
we 'know' neither of us were the betrayer. I could tell him it's the
best bet because Bill could still flip.

In other news. Eric
wants the clues. He already has an Idol. I told him that if he gives me
his idol, I will give him the clues. That is just the personal best
thing I could do. But if he gives me the idol...maybe I won't give him
the clues and I'll give them to you and we can just screw them out of
everything. Let's see what happens with that before I do anything with
Jason or Bill.

Deetster - Jacob wrote:

Yeah, try to do that.

Definitely, a good idea about the deal
PM between me and you. That sounds like it makes a lot of sense, and by
giving me the idol clues, you can kinda help maybe make Bella a little
less crazy, since I'm sure if you gave the clue straight to Jason,
Bella would go ahead and say things to everyone to be safe, and that
would be the worst case scenerio for me and you, since we've been
playing the most risky.

But yeah, if I get the clue, I'll try
the best to get the idol, and then if you wanna try to do that plan
with the swap with Jason, just make sure you really have the idol, lol,
and honestly, at this point, with the stakes we're at, consider not
giving Jason the idol at the end of it. But definitely push it as far
as you feel comfortable, and feel is intelligent.

Hopefully it all works out for the best, but I'm just glad you have the power to make the choice, at the least.

Jessica Hamby wrote:

LOL, Imagine how Bella would flip out if I gave
the clues to Bill. I almost want to just for that. But I know, she's
very dangerous with the information she has and the lack of sanity at
the moment.

I think it's going to work giving the idol to you, just waiting for a reply from Jason and Eric.

Deetster - Jacob wrote:

Yeah, Eric definitely has major concerns about me, but I've been
offhandedly feeding to Jason that Bella could easily not be letting me
in, because it really isn't Bill voting with Forks, and I have no solid
proof that it definitely is. I told him this because I knew that
despite their closeness, that he considers Eric a very serious player,
and would underestimate the possibility of you making a large move like
you did, and that has made Eric a little suspicious in his eyes I'm
sure. I mean, Eric really was the one who pushed Jason to the brink to
vote Bella, and it easily could have been Eric that leaked to Bill that
Jason and himself were considering voting for Bill. So yeah...lol, it's
all just mind games on them I guess in the end, and I did of course
passingly speculate that maybe you were some brilliant strategist and
were behind all of these crazy votes with Bella or something, but then
we both just laughed at it, and move back to the debates on the future
of the game with you in his and Eric's pocket, lol.

So yeah,
definitely make it out to be what is most convenient, and let me know
the details of things when they are fully created. In the end, you and
Jason both can agree you have one person you can trust, and one you
can't from your original tribe, and you gotta secure a 4th outta 7 with
one of the forks to replace the betrayer, and I'd say I'm the best bet
for that, lol. I'm sure he'll agree.

Jessica Hamby wrote:

That is the best, about you both laughing at it. That is really the best.

I'm still just waiting to hear back a little. But it looks possible I could give it to you. Very possible!

And during that same time I was also sending PMs to Jason...but first...Bella interjected again and I ignored her agian;

Cournojo - Bella wrote:

Jessica, I think I have an idea.

You can just dont SHOW up and
do not reply for the IC. That way they will not get another HII. You
can even ask the host if you can give the clue in private. If so, that
would be great.

Also, our best chance is to target Jason.

I
think that Deetster or ALice should go at Eric/Jason/Bill any of them
you think to tell them they want to stay another round and vote for me
if that can protect them. That will cause them (eric, jason, bill) to
be secure/cocky and not give any HII to Jason

I will be away until tomorrow morning.

Please keep me inform on anything.

Regards,

And now Jason...

Jessica Hamby wrote:

I have a confession. Jacob came to me during the last challenge and
told me he thought I would win and that if I gave him the clue he would
vote with me at the next TC no matter who I decided to vote for. I feel
like that's a good plan because we still don't really know if Bill will
vote with us or not. We're already keeping him in the dark but now I'm
extra nervous because I did something selfish. I told Eric that if he
gave me his HII I would give him the clues. I figured if he did that it
would prove he was really with us, I thought if he turned it down I
could give Bill the same offer and see what he says. Eric told me he
doesn't actually have the HII. So that means right now our tribe might
only have one HII after I give the clues to someone, but if I give them
to Jacob, he will vote with us. What do you think? I know it's stupid,
but I needed to hear what someone else thinks. I don't know Jacob so I
don't know if I can trust what he says. I figured you would know more
than I do.

Jason wrote:

Jacob will vote with us regardless because it's in his best interest to
be with us. With Bill/Bella/Alice he would get 4th place. I've been
talking to him quite a bit and his intentions are pure. He voted
exactly as he said he would (for Mike) in the last TC. It's up to you,
of course, since you won immunity. But I think it's best to keep an
idol among the core three of you, me and Eric. Do what you wanna do,
it's your decision to make

Jessica Hamby wrote:

Well then this seems like a good plan. Wouldn't he assume he would get
4th place with us as well? If I give him the idol then he'll feel more
secure and he's a lot more likely to stick with us for this vote.
Right? This is too much pressure. I sent a PM to the host to see how
much time I had. I'm getting tired and want to sleep on it. I guess the
host isn't online as I sent him the PM 2 hours ago. I am up early
though, so hopefully it will be okay.

Jason wrote:

Well, Jacob thinks we're dumping you at the final 4. He would have a
final 3. But of course he IS going at the final 4. So, don't worry. If
you feel more secure giving Jacob the key, then I say do it.

Jessica Hamby wrote:

Well it's not so much making me secure, because I know he will go
before me. It's making us secure this time, and making you and Eric
both secure. I know that seems not right giving Jacob the idol, but if
I can secure him to vote with us then we have them and I can keep you
and Eric safe for sure as opposed to giving one of you the idol and
then hoping they vote for that one.

And hours later, Bella is still retarded...

Cournojo - Bella wrote:

HI buddy,

What'S the latest?

Jessica Hamby wrote:

No news yet. I still don't know if I'll have a choice better than
giving it to Jason, but we will see. I'm waiting to hear back from the
host on some things.

Cournojo - Bella wrote:

Please dont give the clues to JAson. THat is the worst scenario since he's the only one without an HII.

Regarding the host, can I know what are you waiting for? Maybe I can help in some ways.

Also, did you think about just acting AWAY and not reading any of their PM and not reply for the clues?

You could have an emergency right?

ALso, do you think you can make them target Alice and she's a bigger threat since no ONE will even vote with me at this point.

Jessica Hamby wrote:

I'm just getting all the rules about HII stuff, especially when I have to make my decision by.

Cournojo - Bella wrote:

Well I think you have until tonight to choose one person.

LIke
I said you can either JUST DO NOT REPLY saying you had something to do
(work, etc), give it to me privately (if Pete agreed) and finally give
it to Bill or Eric.

Again the key is please find a way to make them target Alice.

I
really want to be in the final with you and deetster but again I am
asking only ONE REAL thing, I dont want to be blindsided and like I
already said if you want to vote with THEM I WILL BE FINE with it and
you will still get my vote in the final I SWEAR.

I know I know Im paranoid lol

Jessica Hamby wrote:

LOL! No, I'm not voting with them, you really don't have to worry about
that. Remember, I never actually 'betrayed' anyone since I was never in
an alliance with anyone before you and Jacob. You can totally trust me
here.

If I don't reply I'll probably get a penalty vote which I
won't do, because it may not count this round but it does count next
round. I read it, if you get penalty votes for a TC where you are
immune they carry over to the next TC. So I can't not reply because
it's even more important that I not have penalty votes next round than
this round. Because there's no way I won't be the target next round
once whomever is left on Bon Temps realizes it was me that betrayed
them. They will have to figure it out by then if we vote out Bill,
Jason or Eric.

I actually believe that last part to be true. I don't really want to vote a Forks member out this time. The best way to play it is to get one more Bon Temps member out, then maybe Bella, then the rest of Bon Temps. But this round has to be Bon Temps. Now...if we screw things up and Bella gets voted out anyway...well...that's just fine. But I don't think I'm going to do it on purpose.

In the end I figured giving the clues to Jacob would be worthwhile because I'm not planning on voting for him any time soon so he's probably not using his idol against me at all. And I'm safe this round, maybe I can make myself safe next round too if we end up 3-3. Now my number one priority is making sure that Alice doesn't go. Bella can go and I don't want Jacob to go but if they vote for him and he doesn't use that idol, well, HA!

There was some commenting about who I gave the clues to.

Cournojo - Bella wrote:

Jacob..

Can you explain me that. It'S awesome. Even if I get the boot. my two favs will be in power situation.

Jessica Hamby wrote:

I spoke with Jason and told him that Jacob said he would vote with us
(us being Me, Eric, and Jason) if I gave him the idol. Jason and I
talked about it for a while and I kept doubting the idea but eventually
Jason decided that Jacob was trustworthy and if I could secure him with
the idol I should do it. It was not easy. LOL!!!

and...

Eric Northman wrote:

Jacob? Seriously? I'd love to hear your reasoning behind that... I mean
giving it to Jason would have secured our final 4 position for sure and
now giving it to Jacob.... I hope you aren't the one who switched and I
gave all that info to you in trust...

Let me know whats going on!

Jessica Hamby wrote:

I
spoke about it mainly with Jason because he's the only one who wasn't
suspected of switching. Jacob came to me during the challenge (first
time I spoke with him) and told me he would vote with us if I gave him
the idol if I won. I asked Jason and Jason said that he was thinking he
would be F3 with you and Jason and so he was probably being honest and
I could trust him. So I figured if I gave it to him he would be assured
to vote with us this time. Which the same can't be said of Bill, who
never responded to me offering him the clue in exchange for the idol at
all. And since Jason said we're planning on taking Jacob to the F4 I
figured him having the idol didn't even matter because we weren't going
to be voting for him until they were useless anyway.

With Eric I just wanted to hammer home that Jason was incolved as much as possible. With Bella I wanted to hammer home that it was me, HAHA!

I have a whole bunch of PMs to post but I'm very tired so I'll do it at a later point. I just wanted to get in a confessional about everything before TC results because if I tried writing one about what I'm feeling now after results it wouldn't be as real.

I don't know about this one. I wanted to vote for Eric as much as Jacob does and I'm all for doing it, especially if Bella is the target if he uses the idol. And of course while I have immunity.

I don't know if it's going to work. I said to Jason, when Eric told me he didn't have the idol I was thinking "Well, if he trusted me he would have told me he didn't have the idol earlier. And if he doesn't trust me than he wouldn't tell me he didn't have the idol now." Meaning I kind of think he really does have the idol. But we'll see.

If everything goes according to plan and Eric goes I might try and be like "That fucking Bill." just to try and keep it up a little more, but it will be very apparent that I'm the traitor. I'm not expecting that to last anymore, but I also didn't expect it to last after the first TC...so I'm going to plan for me being able to pass it off like Bill is still the traitor to Jason even though I don't think I can. Same thing goes if Eric uses the idol and Bella goes, I can still try and play it like Bill is the traitor. We will see, we will see.

All I really hope in this vote is that Bella is the Bon Temps target. I don't want to lose Alice or Jacob, that would suck, it's really the only outcome I would be upset about.

Sorry, these are ALL out of order. These conversations happened DURING IC9;

Cournojo - Bella wrote:

do you want to disucss about the challenge because I.m sure that Bill and cie will.

We are four so we could guarantee a win.

Jessica Hamby wrote:

We aren't allowed to though. There's penalty votes involved if the host finds out.

Cournojo - Bella wrote:

I know, but for sure Bill Jason and Eric will share..

WIf we share like them and do not tell the use, he wont find out and we wont get penalty vote right?

I am thinking about this option and I wanted to discuss it with u firsr

Jessica Hamby wrote:

I don't think it's a good idea with 7 penalty votes at stake. All it will take is one person to say "they shared" and we'll be screwed. Besides, if I have the same answers as the rest of Forks it will prove I'm the one that betrayed them. And no one from there has come to me asking to share so I don't think they're doing it either. Especially since they can't trust each other fully not knowing who betrayed.

Cournojo - Bella wrote:

this is true.

but we are allowed to talk about the target. The host just told us that we cant share our answers to his question.

Therefore, will ou target forks or bon temps?

I do thin we all should ttarget in order for eac and every question jason eric bill jessica cournojo deetster alice..

do you agree?

Jessica Hamby wrote:

I have to target Forks members, there isn't a choice in the matter.

So at this point I went to Jacob...

Jessica Hamby wrote:

Can you please talk to Bella. She is like freaking out about the challenge. She wants to share answers. Please. Do something here.

Deetster - Jacob wrote:

Lol, well clearly we shouldn't share answers.

I'll talk to Bella when she can, hopefully she just freaks out with us.

Jessica Hamby wrote:

I really hope so too.

And then later...

Cournojo - Bella wrote:

Hi guys (message sent to alice deet and jess),

I think I have all this sorted out. I will take the risk of getting penalty vote but I'm trusting you since it''s the only way we have 100% that one of us wil get immunity and avoid all three of them being immune.

I think we sould all but the same answer to every question (getting right away the majority). We will answer the same person to EVERY question. That will allow us to explain the logic to Pete that we do have all the same answer. We could have discuss that prior to the challenge at his was obvious what the chalenge would be. In fact Deet and I taked about that yesterday.

Alice Deetster and I need to target Jason and Eric first than Jessica and finallu ERic. Jessica should spread it around.

That will result in Jason and maybe me being the first two out of the challenge.
By doing that Jessica will still be trust and she could know who the target is and that person could use the HII..


Guys this is a must do, please trust me on that. You have noting to risk it's all on me. And if it's working Deetster or Alice would will Ic and could give clues to the other or me lol.


What do you think, we need to do this if not (since jessica need to target us for the challenge to keep her cover) one of them will win Ic and they could all the immune which they will because of their 2 now 3 HII(after the IC).

I think we should answer DEETSTER to every questio as it's more likely that he will not be the answer for them and they wont vote for him therefore they will not able to attack any of us.

So are you guys all ok with ANSWER DEETSTER to every single question.

Please reply.

This is so important folks.

Jessica Hamby wrote:

Sent to the three of you:

I'm just going to say once again that I can't do that. The host has confirmed he will be revealing everyone's answers, the results will say "Jacob answered ____" "Jessica answered ____" and so on so he can prove the majority. So if I answer with you three, then Bon Temps will know. I suggest that none of you do this as it will be very very very very very obvious that this is happening and the host will give you each 7 penalty votes at TC. He isn't reasonable, he won't care if you discussed it prior to the challenge being posted, I am telling you now that I'm not going to do this for both those reasons. I hope you can understand.

Obviously, Pete confirmed with me that if we talked about it beforehand (which some things we had. Jacob, Alice and I discussed how I didn't want to win the challenge and if it really is a "cut a rope" "break a plate" challenge to take me out first, but we never discussed how we should answer and I did NOT want Bella using that excuse as it's very flimsy and I don't want her getting all those penalty votes.

Cournojo - Bella wrote:

I totally understand Jess.
But you can still but Deetster name a bit more often that you would normall do.

That'S all i'm asking

Jessica Hamby wrote:

I already turned in the challenge, and I'm just going to leave it the way it is.

And Jacob responded to the PM that I sent to Jacob, Alice, and Bella;

Deetster - Jacob wrote:

Totally, we can cheat, that's dumb, lol.

I did a lot of research by asking Pete questions of exactly what would happen if someone were to suggest cheating, even if no one went along with it...I found out that the person who brought it up would be the only one punished if no one went along with it, and if they were immune at Tribal then they would get the penalty votes at the next TC. I did NOT want Bella to have 7 penalty votes at that TC so I stayed silent...but I did have this conversation with Alice.

retreatfrmthesun: before you go just one thing
retreatfrmthesun: really quick
miragad: YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
retreatfrmthesun: I finally got my responses from Pete I was watiing for
miragad: What responses?
retreatfrmthesun: I could probably get away with giving Jacob the idol
miragad: Ahh
retreatfrmthesun: and not giving it to a Bon Temps member
retreatfrmthesun: but let me run this by you
miragad: Mkay, shoot
retreatfrmthesun: it's kinda dumb but I would be into it, only if you are
miragad: THis has to do with getting rid of Bella, doesn't it?
retreatfrmthesun: We could get rid of Bella without doing anything, because I already confirmed with Pete that if I could produce evidence that someone even conspired to share answers on teh challenge he would give that person 7 penalty votes, and I've got that...so......
retreatfrmthesun: no one would even have to betray her
miragad: That's true, but that would put us at even again.
retreatfrmthesun: I know, that's my prooooblem!
miragad: I thought about it too
miragad: Simply because she was pissing me off
retreatfrmthesun: HAHAHAHA, I'm glad you thought about it too for the same exact reason
miragad: Oh yeah, I told Jacob she was pissing me off too
miragad: If we can manage to keep her mouth shut, I honestly think it's best to keep her vote this time. Unfortunately that means giving up the opportunity to get her the frick out without betrayal.
retreatfrmthesun: yeah, it's a very tough decision
retreatfrmthesun: especially since i'm mostly worried that she's just going to blow everything and while I may be immune this time.....
miragad: Especially because if we get her out now, those HIIs will still be in tact at a F6 time...
miragad: That's scary for me and Jacob especially
retreatfrmthesun: well no
retreatfrmthesun: because TC would still happen
miragad: Oh it would?
miragad: So we'd convince them to use them, but Bella would go?
retreatfrmthesun: well i wouldn't give Pete the information until before the TC
retreatfrmthesun: results i mean
retreatfrmthesun: so they would play their idols and everything
retreatfrmthesun: and that should be that
miragad: So...you want to draw the idols and dq Bella?
retreatfrmthesun: HAHAHAHA
retreatfrmthesun: that's the dream
miragad: Could we beat them in a 3v3 situation?
retreatfrmthesun: but then we still would be even
retreatfrmthesun: and who knows if there will still be immunity AND HII next round
miragad: Right...
miragad: Ugh
miragad: This game is annoying
retreatfrmthesun 8:04 am
miragad: So then is the goal here to get you, me, and Jacob in F3?
miragad: I mean, that's what I'd like
miragad: I dunno what you're thinking
retreatfrmthesun: that's what i'd like too
retreatfrmthesun: i have no desire to keep bella
retreatfrmthesun: good F2 partner or not
retreatfrmthesun: I don't give a shit
retreatfrmthesun: HAHA
miragad: Me neither...exactly
miragad: This game has so little to do with me caring anymore
retreatfrmthesun: what i'm hoping
retreatfrmthesun: next roudn
retreatfrmthesun: there are two bon temps left
retreatfrmthesun: one of them is immune and the other uses an HII
retreatfrmthesun: and we can just vote out Bella
retreatfrmthesun: HAHAHAHAHA
miragad: So one BT out this round, and then Bella next, making 3-2?
miragad: That would be nice
miragad: Then again, the only reason I see to really get rid of her is that she's obnoxious
retreatfrmthesun: well we wouldn't HAVE to do bella next
miragad: You think she'd ever really fuck stuff up?
miragad: Like switch?
retreatfrmthesun: i just meant if we had to get rid of one of us because of immunity and hii
retreatfrmthesun: then it would be nice to vote her off
miragad: Right
retreatfrmthesun: but hey, i'll give the idol to jacob and we'll work bon temps
retreatfrmthesun: and if we fuck up
retreatfrmthesun: maybe bella will be gone anyway
retreatfrmthesun: HAHA
miragad: I imagine they'll target her
miragad: They have been
miragad: So we try for BT, and if we fail, bye bye Bella.
retreatfrmthesun: they already want to
retreatfrmthesun: her or you as far as i've heard, no one's said jacob i think
retreatfrmthesun: still just because you're the outcast
miragad: Oh no, I know.
miragad: I can't be offended by anyone wanting me out
miragad: It's an easy reason
miragad: (and legit imo)
retreatfrmthesun: maybe jacob can give the idol to you if we can assure that one of you are getting votes? i dont' know
miragad: I pretty much can't win this game, lol
retreatfrmthesun: oh i agree, but you're doug, so, i don't want you out
retreatfrmthesun: HAHA
miragad: Hahaha
miragad: Well thanks :-D
miragad: Have you talked to Jacob much recently?
miragad: Like about the vote?
retreatfrmthesun: yeah, he came up with the idea to try and get the idol for him, and it seems to have worked with jason, which is the most important i think
retreatfrmthesun: not about the vote, no
retreatfrmthesun: i would expect to vote for bill or jason though
miragad: What are the odds of being able to use Bill?
retreatfrmthesun: Bill would be easiest, but it also completely blows my cover....not that i think it will still be in tact after this vote
retreatfrmthesun: they can't be THAT stupid
miragad: I don't know anything about where he stands, but how close is he to them?
miragad: Yeah, dude. Your cover is going to go sometime very soon
miragad: I'm absolutely amazed it's lasted this long
miragad: Like, seriously amazed
retreatfrmthesun: OMG, Jacob has worked Jason about Bill bein the traitor so hard, and he even suggested to JAson "What if it's Jessica?" and then they both just laughed and laughed
retreatfrmthesun: and Jason said I was in his pocket
retreatfrmthesun: HAHAHA
miragad: Hahahaha
miragad: Nice
retreatfrmthesun: i didn't think it would last more than the one vot3e
retreatfrmthesun: but it has lasted this long so i want to keep it as long as possible
miragad: Understandable
miragad: It's a good place to be, lol
retreatfrmthesun: though now i'ms tarting to feel bad, HAHA, because Bill and Jason keep saying how trustworthy I am
miragad: Hey, don't feel bad that they're stupid
miragad: *shrug*
retreatfrmthesun: HAHAHA
retreatfrmthesun: thanks Doug
retreatfrmthesun: you're the best

Now this is, after the Immunity Challenge results. After I gave the idol to Jacob.

Cournojo - Bella wrote:

that what I was thinking.

Here is a CALM recommandation lol

Maybe
you can write a PM to all three of them Bill, Eric and Jason clearly
mentionning you are writing to them all. Saying you had talk to Jason
and you two agreed on giving the clues to Deetster since hes with you.

That will make Bill and Eric not 100% trusting Jason and they will nto give him the HII right?

Will that we can easily vote Jason out?

What do you think.

Jessica Hamby wrote:

I don't think we should count on getting them to turn on Jason, but
let's actually wait to make any decision until some discussion can
happen, we have to be open to voting for whomever we can in order to
get one of them out.

We're not going to get anyone to not trust
someone new. We have to work with what is already in play, meaning
Bill. Maybe we can get the 'alliance' of Eric, Jason, Jessica and Jacob
to vote for Bill (so then Jason and Eric vote for Bill and Bill votes
for whoever, and you, me, Jacob and Alice vote for Eric or Jason...or
something like that). I think the most important thing is not to play
them too hard. Tribal Council isn't even up yet, so I have time to talk
to them still. Let's not make plans on who to vote for that we can't
change before we know what's happening.

Cournojo - Bella wrote:

I believe that Eric/Jason will either target Alice or Bill.
I will smoothly talk to Bill and just ask what are is plan. Maybe we'll know something.

I still believe that the best for now would be to vote for Jason.

He does seem secure.é

Jessica Hamby wrote:

I don't know what you would get out of Bill, there's no way he would
tell you anything accurate. The only person on Forks who could possibly
get anything out of them would be Jacob.

What worries me more is
what did the host mean when he said that there would be penalties for
some people? Everyone did the challenge, so what are they coming

Cournojo - Bella wrote:

I think it could be Eric or Me. Eric could have forget the
confessionnal last round and since he was immuned he did not get the
penalty vote.

OPtion 2 is that one of you guys did told Pete
about my try about the last IC. If so, I will be getting 7 votes.
Therefore, since I am no way of knowing that. I think Deetster should
give me the idol for me to use it.

What do you think?

Jessica Hamby wrote:

I don't know why one of us would do that. That
would be really stupid. You can ask Jacob if he'll give it to you
though. But if you really got 7 penalty votes they will just carry over
to the next round and the next until you're not immune. That would
really suck, let's hope that's not the case. Ask Jacob and see what he
says.

Cournojo - Bella wrote:

I already did ask him.

Did you have any update from Jason and cie?

Jessica Hamby wrote:

I haven't heard anything yet, I'm assuming that I sent PMs too late and I'll get answers when they all wake up.

Cournojo - Bella wrote:

Cant wait to get an update

Jessica Hamby wrote:

You and me both!

While all of this shit was going down with Bella I was talking with Jacob as well.

Jessica Hamby wrote:

So here's what I've been told. Jason said that he's going to be gone
until after the TC results are in and that he locked in his vote for
Bella already. So Bill, Eric and Jason will all be voting for Bella
unless they are lying and going to vote for someone else (which is
possible). I don't know what you want to do with your idol but I would
hold on to it unless you think it's absolutely necessary. And if it is,
I would give it to Alice, because the only reason they would be lying
about voting Bella is if they're really voting for Alice. I don't think
they'd risk giving 3 votes to you because you just got idol clues.

Here's
the thing. Do we tell Bella? There is NO way to change it. Jason is
going to be gone so no one can change their votes, it is impossible.
She will not accept that, she will try and get people to change their
votes just in case we pick the wrong person to vote for and strike an
idol.

Bill, who knows what's going on with that idol. I've been
thinking a lot about what Eric said to me when I offered him the new
clues in exchange for the idol he already had. If he trusted me, he
could have told me before that he doesn't have the idol. If he doesn't
trust me, he wouldn't tell me the truth about not having the idol now.
So basically, and maybe I'm overthinking things, I think Eric really
does have the idol. If Jason is really gone he would have had to give
it to him already in order to have Jason play it. But if not, we can
probably safely target Jason, even if Bella somehow screws things up.

That
being said I feel like targeting Jason isn't the best move. I feel like
taking out Eric is. If he really doesn't have the idol then we could do
that easy. I know this is all just very dumb but I really don't know
what to do this round. What do you think?


And one final
thing. What did the host mean about some of us getting penalty votes?
We all did the challenge. What is that about?

Deetster - Jacob wrote:

Yeah, you know, the others, Bill not playing his idol, being bold with
votes, so on, it's all hit or miss, but those guys are being bold, and
daring, and look at what it accomplish, we VOTED one of our own off. We
gotta stop being scared, and just make the move, and hope it sticks. If
it doesn't, as an odd plus, I truly do believe that we have Bella as
the person slotted to go, which is comforting in some ways, but sad in
others, so HOPEFULLY Eric will go, and it'll be a great move, but if
not, it's likely Bella.

I'll tell Alice and Bella that we're
gonna vote Eric, and I'll tell Bella that I'm actually thinking that it
is really likely they are going for Alice, by how oddly they are acting
this round...I mean, it is likely, but I just don't know, but I suppose
there is no hard in just saying this, to comfort her, which honestly, is the best for us from all angles.

So yeah, you good with me just telling those 2 to vote Eric, and for us to just go with it head first?

Jessica Hamby wrote:

That is exactly what I wanted to do, LOL! I just didn't want to put you
or Alice in danger. Or Bella. I don't want Bella to go, I mean a lot of
this is her doing (me joining up with you guys I mean) and I would love
to get the 4 of us to the end and then deal with whatever we have to.
But if someone has to go, it is oddly comforting to think it's Bella
just because next round will be more difficult if we lose a number.

Okay. Let's go for Eric. I'll cast my vote now. And we can just keep our fingers crossed we made the right decision.

Bella
was saying something about talking to Bill and trying to get him to
vote for Alice or something. I told her not to do that because it
wasn't going to accomplish anything but I feel like all I'm telling her
lately is to do nothing. Can you just kind of step in and tell her the
same thing. I mean, it was her that spooked Bon Temps the last time and
we lost Mike. So. Let's just keep her tight lipped if we can.

Deetster - Jacob wrote:

Yeah, at the point the best thing we can have Bella do, is keep quiet.
It does sound really odd to be shushing her up these past two rounds,
but I kinda lightly have let it be apparent that she is the one who
tipped off the guys last round, because I think a portion of her didn't
get how her actions made what happened last round much harder to deal
with, so I think she may be getting a bit more that at this point, with
idols, and deception, the best thing those not creating the deception
can do, is stand back and allow the illusion form before their eyes,
and not to jump in front of the illusion and wave their arms around,
lol.

Bella did tell me though, that this round is in my hands,
and your hands. I think she recognizes that I hold the idol clue you
gave me, and you have immunity, and that this game hinges largely on
the decision we make, the lies we create, and the the way we act, and
how we react to others. It's tough to imagine she won't go too crazy,
but we gotta hope.

I'll tell her the Eric vote, and Alice will
be fine with it I'm sure. I am still thinking of playing my idol, just
outta paranoia, but I'll consider keeping it too...we'll see. As for
that penalty vote...Bella is now getting paranoid that someone may have
tipped off the host that she sent out that PM to me, you, and Alice,
and asked me if I would consider giving her my idol for that
reason...at this point, I'm just hoping that the Eric vote works, and
if she's gonna get those penalty votes for what she did...I mean...Idk
what to say of that. I don't want to waste an idol on someone who is
getting votes for that reason, I'm just hoping she's not...that sounds
kinda harsh, but, this idol could potentially accomplish more for me,
or us, and I don't think we should do too much time for someone elses
crime if that is what the host was referring to. I'm more thinking
maybe Alice missed a confessional, or something lighter like that
though.

Jessica Hamby wrote:

I told Bella I hadn't heard back from anyone yet on the Bon Temps tribe
because I sent PMs out really late. So I'm just delaying. But I should
tell her that they are saying Alice as well.

I don't think you
should play your idol, especially if we might actually loose Bella this
round, it could be really important that you have it next round.

I know I didn't tell the host about her PM, I don't know why you or Alice would so I don't think that's it. But we will see.

I'm
going to put in my vote for Eric and a little later I will just tell
Bella that they are thinking Alice for the vote and hopefully that will
keep her calm for the rest of the day. And hopefully the host can
actually post results today so we don't have more time to get things
mucked up.

And back to Bella's slow insanity.

Jessica Hamby wrote:

Ok, talked a little bit with them and it looks like they're going for
Alice. Jason said his vote is locked in and he won't be back until
after TC so I think that's a good sign that they won't even be able to
switch if they wanted to.

I also put my vote in for Eric already. So things should be great

Cournojo - Bella wrote:

I am not feeling good voting for Eric unless Jacob is giving his Idol to Alice.

Do you think he will do it!

Jessica Hamby wrote:

I told him if he didn't want to save the idol he should give it to
Alice to play. I don't know if he will or not. We will see. But also
like Jason I don't know when I'll be able to get back to the computer
today once my day gets busy, so try not to change the vote unless you
absolutely have to because I don't know if I'll be here to change mine.
I normally have a little free time after 6 so I could check back then
and see if anything changed but I wouldn't count on it. Fridays are a
really busy day here.

Cournojo - Bella wrote:

Ok let'S do Eric.

Just try to tell Jacob to give it to Alice

I will try also.

Jessica Hamby wrote:

I mentioned it already, I'll send him a PM again about it. I do think
it's a good idea, but if he wants to hold on to it next round there's
nothing we can do about it.

Cournojo - Bella wrote:

Hi everyone, my vote is made for Eric.

As far as I know they(eric, jason, bill) voting for Alice.

Let's make it, if it's working it will be the greatest TC ever.

These were all happening at the same time as well.

Jessica Hamby wrote:

Your statement at tribal had me cracking up. Do you know what we're
doing for the vote? I'm going to send a message to Jason too. I really
don't think you have anything to worry about this TC from Jason or
Eric, but if Jason tells me different I will let you know so you can
play your idol.

Bill Compton wrote:

Eric sent me a message he was voting for Bella. So, I guess that's what we are doing. I'm cool with it.

Jessica Hamby wrote:

Jason just sent me a message saying the same thing. I think it really will be Bella this time, I hope so at least.

And with Jason

Jessica Hamby wrote:

So, Jason, who am I voting for?

Jason wrote:

Hahaha. I think Bella is the safe bet this time around. We got tricked
into voting for her last time, but now she has no idol. Even if Bill
does still have an idol, he should be keeping it for himself for fear
that he'll be voted. Also, I won't be around until after TC results
tomorrow. So I have to lock in a vote. I won't be around for any last
minute decisions lol.

So yeah, Bella.

Jessica Hamby wrote:

Ok, that sounds fine to me, I don't care which one of them goes. I
think you're right about Bill keeping the idol too. I honestly don't
think he will flip on us again, but I've secured us Jacob just in case.
I will go to him and tell him to vote for Bella.